I grabbed him in one league, skipped over him in another because I had Burns coming off the IR. Regretting that move.

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" You said you don't give a f*ck about hockey. I've never heard anyone say that before."

Coincidental that the origin of this thread essentially came down to Martin vs Beauchemin. Most (myself included) chose Martin. And after singing Martin's praises again tonight, I just looked to see what was going on in the Ducks game: Beauchemin with 3 assists tonight.

Just some unlikely performances from multiple blueliners this year I suppose.

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14 Team H2H Dynasty League (14 keepers, 21-man roster, no farm)
G, A, PPP, SOG, BS, +/-, GAA, W, SV%

C: Giroux/B.Richards/Ennis/Cullen/Grigorenko
W: Ovechkin/Neal/Nash/Skinner/Eriksson/Silfverberg/Samuelsson(IR)
D: Doughty/Boyle/Faulk/Seabrook/Martin(IR)/Seidenberg/Brodin
G: Fleury/Markstrom/Lehner/Khudobin

Make that 4 assists!

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"dARK wING dUCKS" 2011-2012 CHAMPS

10 Team Points Only Limited Keeper Pool (keep any 12)

Top 12 Forwards, 5 Defense & 2 Goalies Count
Goals = 1, Assist = 1, Shutout = 3, Win = 2,

F: Malkin, Neal, Spezza, Benn, Hossa, Ribero, Purcell, Bergeron, Desarnais, Roy, Elias, Berglund, Briere, Dupruis, Versteeg
D: Karlsson, Letang, Pieterangelo, Kronwall, Pitkanen, Souray, Martin
G: Lundquist, Rinne

Just reviving this thread rather then starting a new one.

So do we have a concensus on what Paul Martin is worth? He is 2nd in d-man scoring right now which is obviously above where we expect him to finish. However so much of d-man points is situation and he appears to be in a good one.

What level of forward would you consider a good trade for him right now in a keeper league?

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Too many leagues this year... I think I own every player somewhere.

I think this is a tough question. Martin has been playing lights out for sure, getting prime opportunity and exceeding expectations. But I don't think this is a re-birth for him -- just a nice opportunity to contribute offensively this season and he's capitalizing. After all, Letang still rules the roost there even if the TOI/stats don't necessarily support it recently, and the Pens also have some nice offensive-upside D-men looking to make the club full time in future seasons (Joe Morrow immediately comes to mind).

So in terms of trade value in a keeper league, I'd actually approach it from a one-year league mindset: certainly if I was trading for him and also if I was looking to deal him.

In other words, if you're contending, I'd be looking for a forward who is producing now, has the goods to continue it this year, and is currently rostered by a team with the depth to spare him but who is not necessarily keeper worthy in his own right. Not a complete listing or necessarily a fully thought out one, but I'd start by looking at teams that have Selanne, Jagr or those types. And on the flip side, if you're not contending this season, I'd take a look at teams who are in contention and have an "underperforming" or "disappointing" young asset that they might be willing to move in an attempt to get over the hump.

Sorry this is more conceptual than specific in terms of player names, but it's kind of tough to gauge without knowing the type of league, size, depth, scoring cats and types of GMs that you have out there. I do know, however, that in my league where I have Martin that the above scenarios are pretty much how a trade would be constructed if I were to put Martin on the block (i.e., nobody is really viewing this as anything other than me getting quite a nice contributing player from the waiver wire and whose value has suddenly skyrocketed as it pertains to this season, and maybe not even quite that long).

Cheers.

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14 Team H2H Dynasty League (14 keepers, 21-man roster, no farm)
G, A, PPP, SOG, BS, +/-, GAA, W, SV%

C: Giroux/B.Richards/Ennis/Cullen/Grigorenko
W: Ovechkin/Neal/Nash/Skinner/Eriksson/Silfverberg/Samuelsson(IR)
D: Doughty/Boyle/Faulk/Seabrook/Martin(IR)/Seidenberg/Brodin
G: Fleury/Markstrom/Lehner/Khudobin