Comments for December 12, 2012 at http://hockey.dobbersports.com , comment 1 to 12 out of 12 comments http://hockey.dobbersports.com Tue, 21 May 2013 17:48:58 +0100 FeedCreator 1.7.3 http://hockey.dobbersports.com/index.php/home-mainmenu-1/24-rambling/5111-december-12-2012#comment-23527 I have to agree with the majority here. There was pretty clearly no intent to harm the referee in any way. He was trying to get away, referee lost his balance and they both go down. It's Huberdeau's fault for trying to escape, so I think the 4 games is warranted, but no more. It actually looks to me like Huberdeau lessened the referees fall a bit. He still fell the wrong way and was hurt, but I think he would have fallen harder otherwise. - Kofax Wed, 12 Dec 2012 09:52:05 +0100 http://hockey.dobbersports.com/index.php/home-mainmenu-1/24-rambling/5111-december-12-2012#comment-23526 I agree with Pengwin, the 4 games is fine for what he took part in. He shouldn't have been trying to escape. The biggest problem I noticed was that the linesman was putting way too much pressure on Huberdeau. If you watch closely, the linesman pushes Huberdeau's skates back about 4 feet. Any imbalance or slight twist and you're down. Worst than that, the linesman left foot dragged behind/underneath him and he tripped. It also looks like he banged the back of his head pretty hard off the ice when he hit likely causing his injury. Tough spot for the official. I've had to get in between players older, bigger or stronger than me, generally speaking, if a player wants "go" that bad, let them go. You can penalize them for it shortly after. - shingy Wed, 12 Dec 2012 08:54:46 +0100 http://hockey.dobbersports.com/index.php/home-mainmenu-1/24-rambling/5111-december-12-2012#comment-23525 http://www.calgaryherald.com/sports/Junior+star+Huberdeau+facing+four+game+suspension/7678974/story.html - Pengwin7 Wed, 12 Dec 2012 08:07:51 +0100 http://hockey.dobbersports.com/index.php/home-mainmenu-1/24-rambling/5111-december-12-2012#comment-23524 VA, dude... you are wrong. Huberdeau made the mistake of trying to escape the grasp of the referee. That was wrong. Given. But watch that referee. As he's trying to issue some weight against Huberdeau, his left skate edge is sideways and catches the ice. Once it goes, his center of mass has no support. The right skate slides forward and the referee's grip actually pulls Huberdeau on top of him. Huberdeau himself is actually going BACKWARDS when the referee falls. Frame-by-frame it, slow-motion it, go and try it yourself on the ice. I've been in these tussles before and been pulled down. It looks worse than it was. [u]The referee lost his balance when that left blade caught[/u]. The grip will pull both players down. Leagues have to make an example of a player trying to escape a referee's grip... so 4 games is fine. But players do this all the time, trying to skate away backwards or sideways to escape a referee's grip. 99.9% of the time, there's no incident. So let's not slam Huberdeau for being the 1/1000. This is just bad timing for Huberdeau, wrong slippery ref, wrong time. - Pengwin7 Wed, 12 Dec 2012 07:52:14 +0100 http://hockey.dobbersports.com/index.php/home-mainmenu-1/24-rambling/5111-december-12-2012#comment-23523 How can you possibly defend Huberdeau? He's pushing through a linesman to get to a player. He's not defending himself, he's trying to push through and on ice official to fight a player. Yeah, he absolutely deserves his 4 games and frankly deserves more. Newfcollins is the only sane one here. You never, EVER, EVER push through an official to get to another player. It doesn't matter how it happened, he pushed through a ref to fight a player. That's blatant disrespect for officials and if you think that's not a punishable offense, what's next? - Veritas0Aequitas Wed, 12 Dec 2012 07:38:59 +0100 http://hockey.dobbersports.com/index.php/home-mainmenu-1/24-rambling/5111-december-12-2012#comment-23522 I don't know. The linesman clearly has two hands on Huberdeau, and is trying to push him away from fighting. I can't tell, but I'm pretty sure the linesman would probably be saying something as well. If Hubs ignores him to go after another player, then it's his fault. - newfcollins Wed, 12 Dec 2012 07:33:28 +0100 http://hockey.dobbersports.com/index.php/home-mainmenu-1/24-rambling/5111-december-12-2012#comment-23521 I agree- looks more like the linesman loosing his balance than an actual shove or 'slam'. Unfortunate that it lead to an injury, but it sure didnt look like Huberdeau got overly physical with the linesman. - Rollie1967 Wed, 12 Dec 2012 07:28:02 +0100 http://hockey.dobbersports.com/index.php/home-mainmenu-1/24-rambling/5111-december-12-2012#comment-23520 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2jhSNNwf8ns Second video not working (for me at least); here's a link. - Hey_Robbie Wed, 12 Dec 2012 06:18:08 +0100 http://hockey.dobbersports.com/index.php/home-mainmenu-1/24-rambling/5111-december-12-2012#comment-23517 I agree with TeamFoster4. When a player gets tied up by a linesman, they are simply looking past the linesman at an opponent that may be coming for them. He didn't push the linesman down, they were tied up, Huberdeau was trying to get away, some slipping, an unfortunate injury. He most certainly did not intentionally push a lineman. Four games is fine. Huberdeau made the mistake of trying to get free, which does involves some amount of wrestling (away). - Pengwin7 Wed, 12 Dec 2012 05:04:16 +0100 http://hockey.dobbersports.com/index.php/home-mainmenu-1/24-rambling/5111-december-12-2012#comment-23516 Was it his left hand that was bracing the referee's body under the ref's right arm so that the ref would not lose his balance or his right hand that we can't see in this video that shows that he pushed him down. At no time did Huberdeau, take his eyes off the player from the other team until the referee lost his balance and almost pulled Huberdeau down on top of him. If the referee had him restrained against the glass and Jonathan shoved him down or went after the referee for a call and slammed him, then 4 games or more is warranted. I have only seen this video here, so what he did with the other hand could be the evidence. My apologizes for making light of the incident, because someone did get hurt, but the word "slams" in the video title isn't accurate. - TeamFoster4 Wed, 12 Dec 2012 04:43:14 +0100 http://hockey.dobbersports.com/index.php/home-mainmenu-1/24-rambling/5111-december-12-2012#comment-23515 I think it's nuts he only got four games. Pushed down a linesman, who obviously got injured. Doesn't matter if slippery ice played a factor. He intentionally pushed a linesman. - newfcollins Wed, 12 Dec 2012 04:07:39 +0100 http://hockey.dobbersports.com/index.php/home-mainmenu-1/24-rambling/5111-december-12-2012#comment-23514 In defense of Huberdeau, three seconds into the video, two other players that were [u]not grappling[/u] with each other fell down as well. I would say that it was just slippery out there. :D And I didn't see him discard the referee to the ground. Four games for the linesman losing his balance. Huberdeau wasn't even concerned with him. The referee falling was incidental. - TeamFoster4 Wed, 12 Dec 2012 03:54:01 +0100