Comments for Top 20 Western Conference Fantasy Defensemen - Part 2 of 2 at http://hockey.dobbersports.com , comment 1 to 9 out of 9 comments http://hockey.dobbersports.com Sun, 19 May 2013 08:33:08 +0100 FeedCreator 1.7.3 http://hockey.dobbersports.com/index.php/columnistsarticles-mainmenu-77/amato/5108-top-20-western-conference-fantasy-defensemen-part-2-of-2#comment-23542 Edler is way too high. Suter is also a bit overhyped now after being the class of 2012 free agency. Is there honestly anyone who would pick either of them over Doughty, Keith, Yandle or even Ekman-Larsson (who is clearly only just scratching the surface of what he can do)? If they are out there, I hope they are in my league. Wideman does not belong in the top 20, let alone the top 10. - Isle B. Fri, 14 Dec 2012 09:42:01 +0100 http://hockey.dobbersports.com/index.php/columnistsarticles-mainmenu-77/amato/5108-top-20-western-conference-fantasy-defensemen-part-2-of-2#comment-23511 "Let's hope this Canucks squad never wins the Stanley Cup." Fixed - pts9889 Tue, 11 Dec 2012 14:18:00 +0100 http://hockey.dobbersports.com/index.php/columnistsarticles-mainmenu-77/amato/5108-top-20-western-conference-fantasy-defensemen-part-2-of-2#comment-23508 nice read. What about E. Johnson ? Corner stone of Colorado ... - Le Jule Tue, 11 Dec 2012 12:08:35 +0100 http://hockey.dobbersports.com/index.php/columnistsarticles-mainmenu-77/amato/5108-top-20-western-conference-fantasy-defensemen-part-2-of-2#comment-23501 Thanks, good read. Compiling d-lists are very subjective. Nobody is going to 100% agree on any one list, not gonna happen. Plus, d-value tends to shift from year to year. It's hard to find consistent numbers from the same elite D year in year out. I like AP a lot, and at 22, he's golden, but his peripherals are not strong enough for the #1 spot. Gotta go to Weber. If he's not scoring, he's still adding major value in other cats, AP, not as much. I still don't think Doughty's peripherals are strong enough, either. If his playoff performance carries over (no reason not to), he'll have a great year, but I'm still not sure he'll be more valuable than Edler in a roto league. 1.Weber 177 hits 140 blocks 230 shots 46 pims 2.Edler 143 hits 145 blocks 228 shots 34 pims 3.Doughty 124 hits 70 blocks 167 shots 69 pims 4.Pietrangelo 90 hits 133 blocks 202 shots 36 pims 5.Boyle 58 hits 137 blocks 252 shots 57 pims - shingy Tue, 11 Dec 2012 06:35:56 +0100 http://hockey.dobbersports.com/index.php/columnistsarticles-mainmenu-77/amato/5108-top-20-western-conference-fantasy-defensemen-part-2-of-2#comment-23499 I'd shift this list around quite a bit. With defensemen, I think we need to focus on areas that might correct themselves. As others have said, I'd move Doughty way up. If we are talking multi-cat (SOG... possibly hits), then he's a stellar player to begin with. He had an off year with only 13 PPP and that is certain to bounce-back to 20+ PPP, especially with Jeff Carter on that PP for a full year. I'd pencil him for 25 PPP, which makes him a 48pt player, or more. I also think the Doughty-Johnson PP pairing lacked a lot of chemistry. It seemed strange that Doughty could put up 31 PPP with JJ putting up only 13 PPP (in 2009-2010) and then JJ puts up 28 and Doughty puts up 15 PPP (in 2010-2011). Something was wrong there. JJ was traded away in late-Feb... and Doughty put up his best point totals in... (wait for it)... March! Good news? AP at #1 is incorrect, IMO. AP's an awesome real-NHL defender, but his lack of PIM hurts his value immensely. And, he's not necessarily going to put up better numbers. I know he had a spectacular run in calendar 2012, but I don't see it repeating. STL's PP isn't super-gifted and 24 PPP for AP might be a tall order to repeat. He averaged almost 25min/game and there's not much more room for added TOI, even if he is "young". I think the lack of PIM and the STL PP will peg him around #3 or #4 for coming seasons. I wouldn't draft him ahead of Weber or Doughty in fantasy pools. 1. Weber 2. Doughty 3. Pietrangelo 4. Edler 5. Boyle 6. Suter 7. Keith 8. Yandle ... ... (gap) - Pengwin7 Tue, 11 Dec 2012 05:30:07 +0100 http://hockey.dobbersports.com/index.php/columnistsarticles-mainmenu-77/amato/5108-top-20-western-conference-fantasy-defensemen-part-2-of-2#comment-23498 I can't disagree more on this guys rankings. Did he pull them from a hat? - progie Tue, 11 Dec 2012 05:28:04 +0100 http://hockey.dobbersports.com/index.php/columnistsarticles-mainmenu-77/amato/5108-top-20-western-conference-fantasy-defensemen-part-2-of-2#comment-23495 I agree on Doughty too - having him below #3 is a travesty. I also think Yandle, Boyle, Keith, and Wideman should be dropped down at least a few notches each - I'd actually take Shattenkirk (and maybe even Johnson) over any of them. - RizzeeDizzee Mon, 10 Dec 2012 14:09:26 +0100 http://hockey.dobbersports.com/index.php/columnistsarticles-mainmenu-77/amato/5108-top-20-western-conference-fantasy-defensemen-part-2-of-2#comment-23494 I looked at your 11-20 list again and I would take every guy on it before Wideman, if he was still in Washington. In Calgary I think we will be able to add another 20 names ahead of him. No big disagreements with any of the other guys but unless you are in a points-only league Wideman will be fantasy poison this year - and if you are in a points only league he will just be fantasy indigestion. My prediction is 34 points, minus 18 and 35 PIMs (pro-rated for 48 games or whatever the overlords deem to give us) as he and J-Bo combine for one of the softest pairings in hockey. - Ron Burgundy Mon, 10 Dec 2012 11:31:37 +0100 http://hockey.dobbersports.com/index.php/columnistsarticles-mainmenu-77/amato/5108-top-20-western-conference-fantasy-defensemen-part-2-of-2#comment-23493 Id take Doughty over any of these guys. AP Id think about but Doughty was the best player in the playoffs and has a 59 pt season under his bet. LA is due for a bounceback season offensively as shown in the playoffs and that should include Doughty. - frozenpools Mon, 10 Dec 2012 10:42:59 +0100