Comments for Avoiding Mistakes in Fantasy Hockey at http://hockey.dobbersports.com , comment 1 to 11 out of 11 comments http://hockey.dobbersports.com Wed, 22 May 2013 01:37:38 +0100 FeedCreator 1.7.3 http://hockey.dobbersports.com/index.php/jeff-angus/5038-avoiding-mistakes-in-fantasy-hockey#comment-23182 Robbie Schremp and Cameron Mann!!!!!!!!! Boy, was I wrong!!!! I paid big-time to get these 2!!! - martmart Fri, 09 Nov 2012 10:03:08 +0100 http://hockey.dobbersports.com/index.php/jeff-angus/5038-avoiding-mistakes-in-fantasy-hockey#comment-23181 I would have to say that my worse one was Nikita Filatov who probably falls into both the Rushed and Hype Warnings - MacLiii Fri, 09 Nov 2012 09:00:05 +0100 http://hockey.dobbersports.com/index.php/jeff-angus/5038-avoiding-mistakes-in-fantasy-hockey#comment-23179 Selling high is never easy, which is why so many people never do it. I'm not saying to create warning signs, but if a player starts to show a few of them, perhaps its time to readjust opinion. - angus Fri, 09 Nov 2012 06:12:16 +0100 http://hockey.dobbersports.com/index.php/jeff-angus/5038-avoiding-mistakes-in-fantasy-hockey#comment-23178 It’s always interesting to look back with 20/20 hindsight, but if we applied these scenarios to today’s prospects/young players, we’d probably be wrong at least half the time and end up giving up on players too soon. Those are the mistakes I would rather avoid. Instead of getting nervous and cutting bait because of “warning signs” that might be benign, I'd rather pick my guys and keep the faith until proven otherwise. - jsuites Fri, 09 Nov 2012 05:53:11 +0100 http://hockey.dobbersports.com/index.php/jeff-angus/5038-avoiding-mistakes-in-fantasy-hockey#comment-23177 My own experience with 95%+ of prospects is that we can't make an educated assumption about their NHL fantasy-value based on what we've seen in any non-NHL league. The exceptions are the Tavares or Stamkos or Seguin or Crosby... if a player absolutely dominates a junior level and is drafted #1 or #2, you know they are the real deal. But that's about it for my true-confidence level, top 3 draft picks that dominated their levels. For me, I'm only confident about guys coming out of the OHL & WHL. A 2nd or 3rd overall pick out of the QMJHL still has some iffy-ness... IMO. Also a 2nd or 3rd overall pick from the USHL or NCAA or overseas... still could be iffy... IMO. (except for a year when you have Ovechkin/Malkin, say). So - all that said, I see way too many people on the boards who have strong opinions that guys selected outside of the top 3 are going to be rock-solid in the NHL. I've never owned Filatov or Kadri or Pouliot in any leagues. Last year, I remember a thread where a guy had the opportunity to trade up to #2 and select Landeskog or wait at #3 and take Rundblad. The consensus had him waiting for Rundblad (a guy who dominated a water-down SEL). The biggest problem in prospects (or anything) is that we invest time into studying something/somebody and then decide we need to invest physically in that something. Sometimes we have to spend time analyzing/studying and then stop and say... this is worthless and I shouldn't be investing. I can't really name a player I've been wrong about... because I'm really hesitant to comment "positively" about any prospect until I've seen them play 5 games in the NHL (or unless they are part of that ELITE 5% of #1-#3 overall picks that I trust). But... (one last thought in this ramble)... a lot of leagues these days do have prospect rosters, so it is important to discuss "who is better/best of the bunch". We just simply have to separate from saying "JoeSchmoe will make it in the NHL" - so often. My 2 cents. - Pengwin7 Fri, 09 Nov 2012 04:45:02 +0100 http://hockey.dobbersports.com/index.php/jeff-angus/5038-avoiding-mistakes-in-fantasy-hockey#comment-23176 Chistov, oh man, I definitely remember him. I loved him in Anaheim, and then he just fizzled out. That was definitely the WJC effect, as was my love for [b]Alexander Svitov[/b], who went two spots ahead of him in the 2001 Draft. [b]Steve Eminger[/b] was an exposure effect guy. Watched a ton of him with the Kitchener Rangers, and should have taken into account that he was playing with a stacked team. And Frolik. Guys a bust at this point who's had all the opportunity in the world. I thought he'd be a lot better. Finally, and this isn't for me, but having lived in Toronto, every Maple Leafs fan was guilty on the [b]Justin Pogge[/b] front. I cannot tell you how many people thought he'd be by far a superior goalie to Rask, and felt he'd be an all-star goalie. - TavesSoul Fri, 09 Nov 2012 04:04:52 +0100 http://hockey.dobbersports.com/index.php/jeff-angus/5038-avoiding-mistakes-in-fantasy-hockey#comment-23175 I was fooled by the hype around Hugh Speciman. Thought he might have been a great talent who had it all. Boy was i wrong... - Onetimer Fri, 09 Nov 2012 02:26:52 +0100 http://hockey.dobbersports.com/index.php/jeff-angus/5038-avoiding-mistakes-in-fantasy-hockey#comment-23174 Todd Harvey Inthe lock out 95 WJC he was the best player on the ice. And he was a local hamilton bot to boot. I pegged him as thte next Pat Verbeek. Instead he was the next James Vanderbeek. - mormerod Thu, 08 Nov 2012 20:13:36 +0100 http://hockey.dobbersports.com/index.php/jeff-angus/5038-avoiding-mistakes-in-fantasy-hockey#comment-23173 Beware of more talented linemates. Is the player strong on the puck? Watch his offensive moves/style, will it translate to the NHL? - DuklaNation Thu, 08 Nov 2012 17:09:57 +0100 http://hockey.dobbersports.com/index.php/jeff-angus/5038-avoiding-mistakes-in-fantasy-hockey#comment-23172 I was a Moller fan as well. He was awesome playing for Team Sweden. One thing you might add, Jeff, is the right situation. Sometimes being rushed into the NHL isn't a bad thing if you are put in the right situation. Moller was an offensive guy and may have fit in better with a team like Florida or Columbus where he could have been handed a top six role. Another Kings player I like is Andrei Loktionov...same situation. Cody Franson - big guy - offensive - decent stats per minutes played. I was sure this guy would be a 45 pt d-man with decent periperals by now. Michael Frolik - this guy is looking like a failed prospect. He hasn't had the injuries to fall back on and he has had opportunity. Tomas Tatar - still waiting - Rad64 Thu, 08 Nov 2012 17:08:17 +0100 http://hockey.dobbersports.com/index.php/jeff-angus/5038-avoiding-mistakes-in-fantasy-hockey#comment-23171 I think I have one hopefully someone remembers...Stanislav Chistov. He was supposed to be the "Russian Paul Kariya". Now, whenever I hear "this guys the next (fill in blank) I cringe. - Loki Thu, 08 Nov 2012 17:05:22 +0100