Comments for September 19, 2012 at http://hockey.dobbersports.com , comment 1 to 14 out of 14 comments http://hockey.dobbersports.com Tue, 18 Jun 2013 02:34:46 +0100 FeedCreator 1.7.3 http://hockey.dobbersports.com/index.php/other-features-mainmenu-89/archived-ramblings/4910-september-19-2012#comment-22615 Got drafted!! Thanks Dobber! now let there be hockey!! - hawkdog Wed, 19 Sep 2012 13:05:43 +0100 http://hockey.dobbersports.com/index.php/other-features-mainmenu-89/archived-ramblings/4910-september-19-2012#comment-22614 And made the cut. :) Drawn in the same batch as you Pengwin - would be funny if we were in another league together, eh? :) - horrorfan Wed, 19 Sep 2012 12:15:35 +0100 http://hockey.dobbersports.com/index.php/other-features-mainmenu-89/archived-ramblings/4910-september-19-2012#comment-22613 Hot damn I made the cut. Thanks Dobber. Now here's hoping the draft time doesn't conflict with work....may have to call in sick that night if it does.;) cough cough wheeze - NoWayOut Wed, 19 Sep 2012 11:15:18 +0100 http://hockey.dobbersports.com/index.php/other-features-mainmenu-89/archived-ramblings/4910-september-19-2012#comment-22612 Yes made the list now I just need there to be NHL hockey. - rikkitikki Wed, 19 Sep 2012 07:17:19 +0100 http://hockey.dobbersports.com/index.php/other-features-mainmenu-89/archived-ramblings/4910-september-19-2012#comment-22611 I made the list, I made the list! Been waiting for my shot for a few years now. Happy, happy, joy, joy. (thanks) - Pengwin7 Wed, 19 Sep 2012 06:23:13 +0100 http://hockey.dobbersports.com/index.php/other-features-mainmenu-89/archived-ramblings/4910-september-19-2012#comment-22610 A players league would never happen because it would mean players putting a substantial amount of money into the venture from their own pockets, I think the wives would have something to say about that:D If the players don't put the money into the venture, where is it going to come from?? We don't have a whole host of billionaires in line to buy NHL franchises so what makes you think they will invest ina brand new league? Plus there is no infastructure in place for all of the paperwork that comes along with something like this. Trying to find suitable venues that are not already tied to an NHL franchise could prove difficult. Non starter and doomed to faliure if they try. - UKflames Wed, 19 Sep 2012 06:05:18 +0100 http://hockey.dobbersports.com/index.php/other-features-mainmenu-89/archived-ramblings/4910-september-19-2012#comment-22609 Teemu succinctly states my two favorite points of the whole mess. I would add one more. It wasn't the players decision to expand into crappy markets that make no money, that now have to be bailed out. Why should they be the ones to eat that cost? - DarthVain Wed, 19 Sep 2012 05:09:46 +0100 http://hockey.dobbersports.com/index.php/other-features-mainmenu-89/archived-ramblings/4910-september-19-2012#comment-22608 It's great to see my name up there, I'm ready to put together a great team, looking forward to the draft!!! - Jeremy Campbell Wed, 19 Sep 2012 04:23:24 +0100 http://hockey.dobbersports.com/index.php/other-features-mainmenu-89/archived-ramblings/4910-september-19-2012#comment-22607 Interesting thought, but I don't think it would be that easy. There's no guarantee that all of the big name players would even be on board with that idea. I'm sure a good number of the European/Russian stars would prefer to head overseas and be closer to their homes and families, likely getting paid more in the process, rather than join a brand new players' league in North America. I think we would lose a great deal of talent in the process, crippling the sport tremendously. - JW Wed, 19 Sep 2012 04:01:29 +0100 http://hockey.dobbersports.com/index.php/other-features-mainmenu-89/archived-ramblings/4910-september-19-2012#comment-22606 Just throwing a thought out there... Is there anything that's preventing the players to just form a league of their own? I'm sure they have enough star power/resources/sponsorships/marketability to start a league on their own and get [b]100%[/b] of the ticket/marketing revenue for themselves instead of having to split the money with "greedy" owners. I mean they can hold their own "fantasy draft" and pick 12-15 markets that are "profitable" then they don't have to worry about revenue sharing and floundering markets. I'm sure all of the Canadian markets, plus your big guns of New York, Boston, Minnesota, Pittsburgh, Chicago, Detroit, Philadelphia, Washington and LA could support a new up-and-coming "players' league"... Sure they won't get major publicity or a tv contract at the start, but with 15 teams the talent pool becomes much more condensed and you can build a league from the ground up of how it should have been done instead of over-expansion and diluting the talent pool... I mean diehard hockey fans would still recognize household names like Crosby, Ovechkin, Malkin... and they'd still pay money to go and watch a live game. They don't have to charge an exorbitant amount like the NHL, since most of it is going to the rich owner's pockets anyway, if they lower ticket prices to a reasonable amount with it all profits going to the players, the players could probably make a reasonable amount of money while cutting out the middle man of the NHL... If it doesn't work they can always go back to the bargaining table with their tails tucked between their legs and accept whatever the league has to offer, but if this "player's league" does pan out, it'd end all of the labour disputes and the players could reap in a [b]whole heap of money[/b]. Or even the threat of the players "forming their own league" might cause the owners to start shaking in their pants a bit, that their $400-500 million enterprise could be down the tubes with nothing to show for it. That might get some of the "big cats" to start offering more options of revenue sharing, rather than to lose their entire multi-million dollar franchises... Surely the PA must of thought about something like this? Fehr is a smart man and that could be the initiative that swings the pendulum back into the player's favour. - Ryan Ma Wed, 19 Sep 2012 03:51:55 +0100 http://hockey.dobbersports.com/index.php/other-features-mainmenu-89/archived-ramblings/4910-september-19-2012#comment-22605 What the owners miss is that watcchers and participants in the game of hockey have alternatives and if they don't help grow the market of watchers there will be even less revenue to split up....I already have lost many hockey games due to a lousy TV contract...now I will get to see no games for a while....soon no need to bother at all my attention will be on world series and football....that giant flush you hear in the background is the NHL headed for my septic tank. - SharkMeat Wed, 19 Sep 2012 02:46:19 +0100 http://hockey.dobbersports.com/index.php/other-features-mainmenu-89/archived-ramblings/4910-september-19-2012#comment-22604 It is easy for a player that has made his money out of the NHL to sit and snipe at the lockout. Selanne is only playing now for fun and those extra few million for the retirement fund, so he has nothing to lose. He would probalby retire after this season anyway, so however this turns out will have very little if any effect on him at all. Tell me he's bothered about the players that will follow in his footsteps, I don't think so. - UKflames Wed, 19 Sep 2012 01:10:50 +0100 http://hockey.dobbersports.com/index.php/other-features-mainmenu-89/archived-ramblings/4910-september-19-2012#comment-22603 But who would actually go watch the replacement NHL players play? Not a chance I'm paying top dollar to go watch a bunch of second-tier players. I don't care if the logo still says 'NHL'. - spanyon Tue, 18 Sep 2012 20:16:15 +0100 http://hockey.dobbersports.com/index.php/other-features-mainmenu-89/archived-ramblings/4910-september-19-2012#comment-22602 Tell Selanne this, Leipold is forced to sign those deals to get those players as thats the market price. He wants a system that prevents the market price getting to that point. So why is it that hard for Selanne to understand this paradigm? Because the NHL is not a pure market driven by plain vanilla supply/demand. These rules are in place to balance the playing field between rich vs poor markets/teams. Why doesnt he argue against the draft? I'd like him to defend guaranteed contracts vs the normal marketplace. Scott Gomez would be in major lawsuit right now. - DuklaNation Tue, 18 Sep 2012 20:11:35 +0100