Comments for August 28, 2012 at http://hockey.dobbersports.com , comment 1 to 10 out of 10 comments http://hockey.dobbersports.com Tue, 21 May 2013 04:09:16 +0100 FeedCreator 1.7.3 http://hockey.dobbersports.com/index.php/home-mainmenu-1/24-rambling/4858-august-28-2012#comment-22329 I think 9th is a fair prediction, its going to be a dog fight in the west with the upgrades Minny and Colorado have made. Who knows how Jagr and Whitney fair in Dallas but they could make some noise as well. Unless Dubie or the Bulin wall really step up I can't see the oilers finishing very high in their division, likely 4th. Also, if we miss 20 games due to a lock out its going to be a real dog fight to make the playoffs, any substantial slump will likely mean missing the playoffs for any team. Also LA gets a chance to recover from their hangover. No room for a 20 game injury for Hall That being said the oilers will be a fun team to watch! - hawkdog Tue, 28 Aug 2012 13:48:31 +0100 http://hockey.dobbersports.com/index.php/home-mainmenu-1/24-rambling/4858-august-28-2012#comment-22328 When 9 points separates Phoenix (#3 seed) from Colorado (#11 seed) - yes, less than 5 wins - it's hard to criticize anyone's projections on the final standings. I think Edmonton will be better, but so are many other teams in the West. I am guessing that Edmonton will be battling teams like Phoenix, Minnesota, Calgary, Dallas and Colorado for that last playoff spot. - mabus Tue, 28 Aug 2012 08:21:17 +0100 http://hockey.dobbersports.com/index.php/home-mainmenu-1/24-rambling/4858-august-28-2012#comment-22327 @brosal04 The problem with the analysis that Datsyuk had an off-year because Zetterberg started off slow isn't correct because they don't play together. Zetterberg only played even strength with Datsyuk even-strength 14% of the time. Eight other players played more with Zetterberg than Datsyuk. So Zetterberg's slow start shouldn't have had an impact on Datsyuk. For some reason, everyone think they are linemates, when the stats actually show that Zetterberg plays more with Cleary than he does with Datsyuk. - newfcollins Tue, 28 Aug 2012 07:36:57 +0100 http://hockey.dobbersports.com/index.php/home-mainmenu-1/24-rambling/4858-august-28-2012#comment-22325 Dobber's numbers on Datsyuk are pretty fair. Yahoo's rank is based on G,A,+-,PIM,PPP,SOG. I've matched their algorithm for skaters, so I can input projections and see how they stack up with last year's final players. Datsyuk as 20G,48A,+20,18 PIM,18 PPP,160 SOG would give him a Yahoo! Rank of 61. (~Eberle) Datsyuk as 18G,48A,+5,16 PIM,18 PPP,160 SOG would give him a Yahoo! Rank of 97. (~Weiss) Also consider that those are numbers fit with last year's "REAL" final NHL numbers. If you take away player's injuries and JUST give them projections then many more players that ended last year (with significant injury time: Crosby, Backstrom, etc.) slide in above Datsyuk. So... something in between the #61 (actual) & #97 (actual)... around #80... would slide Datsyuk into Yahoo! spot #100 once everybody was ranked with projections (which considers every player to be fairly healthy). I have to say that I agree w/Dobber's explanation here. I also like the Oilers peg around #9... I've got them around 8/9 too. Thumbs up. (ps. Shoeless - go to the forums under the One-Year section. I've got lots of Yahoo! specific rank, interpretation, analysis in there in different threads... including a new one today.) - Pengwin7 Tue, 28 Aug 2012 07:00:06 +0100 http://hockey.dobbersports.com/index.php/home-mainmenu-1/24-rambling/4858-august-28-2012#comment-22324 If there is hockey. Luongo will be a Canuck at the start of the season. Gillis And Aquallni's have way too much pride to not get value for Lui. This signing gives them flexability, bring Lack up this year or pay him for next either way. If Lu wants to go then he needs to increase the number of teams he is willing to go too. I am tired of these athletes being pre-madonnas. Play for the love of the game and be thankful you play the game. As a fan I contribute to a 5.3 million dollar back up and I am fine with that. I know I am willing to take a harsher stance. Thanks for the b*tch session I can carry on my day! ;D - lemachelio Tue, 28 Aug 2012 06:33:35 +0100 http://hockey.dobbersports.com/index.php/home-mainmenu-1/24-rambling/4858-august-28-2012#comment-22323 I haven't checked yahoo rankings yet but not having Datsyuk in the top 100 is messed up. At the end of day sure you have him predicted at 71-20-48-68, 18 PIM, plus-20. But if some reason has a reasonably heatlhy year he could put up 80-85 points easy. I think a horrible offensive year from zetterberg is what influenced datsyuk numbers. Zetterberg had a horrible start to the year in the last 3 months he had 31-13-21-34 Pts. Lets face it last year... Lidstrom was 40-45 pts Defenseman he didnt have elite status for production. And Zetterberg could still put up PPG numbers in the last 3 months. So if zetterberg is a 80-85 pts guy. Doesnt that make datsyuk pretty close since he is considered a better offensive player but misses 6-12 games. - brosal04 Tue, 28 Aug 2012 05:25:42 +0100 http://hockey.dobbersports.com/index.php/home-mainmenu-1/24-rambling/4858-august-28-2012#comment-22322 and THN has the Rangers finishing 4th in the East (behind Pitt, Bos and Wash). They must not think highly of Rick Nash... :) - cbergeron Tue, 28 Aug 2012 04:25:46 +0100 http://hockey.dobbersports.com/index.php/home-mainmenu-1/24-rambling/4858-august-28-2012#comment-22321 the yahoo writers are idiots... not only is that top 100 missing datsyuk but its also missing gaborik... theres no justifying that... chalk it up to stupidity - acfurino Tue, 28 Aug 2012 03:49:13 +0100 http://hockey.dobbersports.com/index.php/home-mainmenu-1/24-rambling/4858-august-28-2012#comment-22320 Dobber - you touch on the age old debate for me about how to rank players in the preseason. Obviously I have my own opinions and system, but I would love to see one of your writers tackle the question in depth - Glen Hoos and Ryan Ma come to mind. - Shoeless Tue, 28 Aug 2012 03:07:09 +0100 http://hockey.dobbersports.com/index.php/home-mainmenu-1/24-rambling/4858-august-28-2012#comment-22319 I think you are pretty spot on with your prediction. Last season I had them missing the playoffs(which they did badly) and this season I have them pegged to battle for that last playoff spot, which I think they will get being that I'm such an Oiler homer. There defense still leaves a lot to be desired but I think the young kids are tired of losing and they have been in the league a little while now. It's time for them to step up and lead. - Mr_Sausage Mon, 27 Aug 2012 20:57:00 +0100