Comments for July 06, 2012 at http://hockey.dobbersports.com , comment 1 to 11 out of 11 comments http://hockey.dobbersports.com Wed, 22 May 2013 23:07:39 +0100 FeedCreator 1.7.3 http://hockey.dobbersports.com/index.php/home-mainmenu-1/24-rambling/4755-july-06-2012#comment-21698 The Wings are turning Ericsson into a stay at home defensive dman, so hopefully the turnovers won't be THAT bad going forward. - sentium Fri, 06 Jul 2012 11:05:33 +0100 http://hockey.dobbersports.com/index.php/home-mainmenu-1/24-rambling/4755-july-06-2012#comment-21697 I see no reason why Howson shouldn't be fired immmediately regardless of how this plays out. But to be clear, I do not think Howson should settle on a return. He absolutely has to get top value out of Nash. But if it's my team trading for him I'm not interested in giving up the asking price. And there's way more than stats here to consider in my opinion. Heatley has topped 50 and I maybe wouldn't touch that unless it's damn near free. Nash is super talented to be sure, but there's always been something missing with him to me. The "it" factor or whatever. That said, Kreider straight across the Rangers probably should do but it's not an option. But giant packages including 2 good to great players + high picks and prospects thrown in? hellz no! In my opinion, at $7.8M in this market with this cap you have to be the guy that drives the bus. I just don't see Nash doing that. He's a high-end complimentary "passenger" in my eyes. Would love if he proved me wrong though. - sanstanya Fri, 06 Jul 2012 10:51:00 +0100 http://hockey.dobbersports.com/index.php/home-mainmenu-1/24-rambling/4755-july-06-2012#comment-21696 I totally disagree Isle B. and sanstanya. If you could get Nash straight up for Kreider then Howson should be fired immediately. Sure you save cap money that can be used on other free agents, but there is no guarantee that you get the guy you want (Doan) or that you aren't forced to overpay to get that player. Nash is a player who scores consistantly and is just entering his prime at age 28. He has [b]averaged[/b] 33 goals over the past nine years on a brutal team, and scored 40 twice. The last time he scored 40 was in 08/09, where the next highest point total on the team belonged to Kristian Huselius! He is 6'-4", 220 lbs, and add him to a line with Brad Richards and he's a lock for 40, but could score up to 50. There is no way to justify not trading a rookie like Kreider who is unproven and hasn't even played a regular season game yet. - Bender Fri, 06 Jul 2012 10:35:23 +0100 http://hockey.dobbersports.com/index.php/home-mainmenu-1/24-rambling/4755-july-06-2012#comment-21695 Bourque plays LW, too. - angus Fri, 06 Jul 2012 10:29:49 +0100 http://hockey.dobbersports.com/index.php/home-mainmenu-1/24-rambling/4755-july-06-2012#comment-21694 Why has nobody commented on the situation in Montreal?! They've now got 8 RW's under contract (Prust, Armstrong, Bourque, Cole, Gionta, White, Blunden, Gallagher) and only Moen & Pacioretty on LW. My personal opinion is that Moen has no business playing in a top-6 role, which leaves at least one gaping hole to plug. I'm not really sure how it's possible that the front office hasn't gone gangbusters trying to bring in Nash or Semin, but something along those lines needs to happen if the Habs intend on being a competitive team. Right now, they're playing with two 2nd lines and two 4th lines. - number54 Fri, 06 Jul 2012 10:19:36 +0100 http://hockey.dobbersports.com/index.php/home-mainmenu-1/24-rambling/4755-july-06-2012#comment-21692 Isle B. - -I agree, though I can't stand the Rangers so seeing them overpay in assets and cap for Nash won't hurt my feelings. Gaudett - having grown up a Habs fan from birth that deal would hurt my feelings. Not sure I could do Plekanec or Subban straight across for Nash, nevermind that massive package. Yeah I just said that. As far as I'm concerned he's the Canadian Semin. Sure, he won't go play in the K, but what is he really worth to a franchise? Not buying the hype at all. - sanstanya Fri, 06 Jul 2012 08:44:59 +0100 http://hockey.dobbersports.com/index.php/home-mainmenu-1/24-rambling/4755-july-06-2012#comment-21691 I wouldn't trade Kreider straight up for Rick Nash. Kreider stepped right onto the NHL ice and scored a bunch of goals in the playoffs and was arguably the Rangers' most dynamic offensive player. If I was running that team, I'd much rather see what he can do for an encore to that debut than just deal him away for a 30-goal scorer that makes 8 million a year and then use the money saved on another player like Shane Doan. - Isle B. Fri, 06 Jul 2012 08:15:44 +0100 http://hockey.dobbersports.com/index.php/home-mainmenu-1/24-rambling/4755-july-06-2012#comment-21690 I'd keep Rinne (more proven), but he drops from a top 3 fantasy goalie to the 7-10 range. - angus Fri, 06 Jul 2012 07:10:55 +0100 http://hockey.dobbersports.com/index.php/home-mainmenu-1/24-rambling/4755-july-06-2012#comment-21689 Also, assuming Weber goes elsewhere, in a H2H limited keeper [keep 8 and I only plan to keep 1 G), would you keep M. Smith over Rinne at that point? (G cats= W, GAA, SP%) - Steviek35 Fri, 06 Jul 2012 07:07:11 +0100 http://hockey.dobbersports.com/index.php/home-mainmenu-1/24-rambling/4755-july-06-2012#comment-21688 Jeff, What happens to Rinne's value if Weber joins Suter out the door? - Steviek35 Fri, 06 Jul 2012 07:01:01 +0100 http://hockey.dobbersports.com/index.php/home-mainmenu-1/24-rambling/4755-july-06-2012#comment-21686 Looking at your reasonable offers for Nash makes me think about: Plekanec, Subban, 2013 2nd rounder, 2014 1st rounder. Of course I don't think Montreal is on his list, but it should be. - Gaudett Fri, 06 Jul 2012 03:10:04 +0100