Comments for The UFA Guessing Game at http://hockey.dobbersports.com , comment 1 to 21 out of 20 comments http://hockey.dobbersports.com Wed, 19 Jun 2013 06:43:28 +0100 FeedCreator 1.7.3 http://hockey.dobbersports.com/index.php/jeff-angus/4720-the-ufa-guessing-game#comment-21545 Suter - Detroit Parise-Pittsburgh Semin - Moscow Whitney - Carolina Jokinen - Minnesota Doan - Chicago Parenteau - Montreal Hudler - Moscow Jagr - New York Rangers Garrison - Vancouver Tootoo - Columbus Carle - Philadelphia Boyes - Unsigned Souray - Unsigned Penner - Toronto - Isle B. Sat, 30 Jun 2012 10:37:22 +0100 http://hockey.dobbersports.com/index.php/jeff-angus/4720-the-ufa-guessing-game#comment-21543 1. Ryan Suter - Det 2. Zach Parise - Pit 3. Alexander Semin - KHL 4. Ray Whitney - Tb 5. Olli Jokinen - Dal 6. Shane Doan - Van 7. PA Parenteau - Car 8. Jiri Hudler - Cgy 9. Jaromir Jagr - Nj 10. Jason Garrison - Tb 11. Jordin Tootoo - Mtl 12. Matt Carle - Phl 13. Brad Boyes - Clb 14. Sheldon Souray - Unsigned 15. Dustin Penner - Win - 5hole Sat, 30 Jun 2012 08:38:05 +0100 http://hockey.dobbersports.com/index.php/jeff-angus/4720-the-ufa-guessing-game#comment-21542 Great lists, gents. Really well thought out. - angus Sat, 30 Jun 2012 06:59:55 +0100 http://hockey.dobbersports.com/index.php/jeff-angus/4720-the-ufa-guessing-game#comment-21535 By the way Hansels list takes the cake! - Fighting_Emu Fri, 29 Jun 2012 07:16:53 +0100 http://hockey.dobbersports.com/index.php/jeff-angus/4720-the-ufa-guessing-game#comment-21534 8. Hudler- Between his year in the KHL and all the years buried behind the superstars in Detroit I think one word describes this adorable little midget: underrated!! Hes very tenacious on the puck, great off the wall and sees the ice very well. In fact youd never know how rare a commodity playmaking wingers were based on the 3 (Parentau and Whitney being the other 2) available in this years free agency crop. I think hes looking for a place where he has a clearly defined top six role. I think Tampa and Colorado have definite room there as well as a couple of goal scoring centers in Stamkos/Duchene that would be a great fit for Huds. 9. Jagr- Back to the Rangers!! I actually dont think he extends with Philly because the consensus opinion was that he fit so well there- yet he insists on testing the waters anyways. Kind of risky on a team that deep especially considering how much players like Giroux/Voracek have already stepped it up. Im also not buying this Pittsburgh idea either- as feelings were a little less than amicable on both sides after he signed with the Flyers. I think Jagrs a bit of a mercenary- maybe not in the truest sense of the word as he is a great guy to have in the locker room- but when it comes to the Benjamins Jaromirs gots to get paid. NYR isnt afraid to spend and has something to sell if they miss out on the Nash sweepstakes (as they have already apparently been crossed off Parises list). He goes to a top contender in a city he is familiar with. 10. Garrison- I think hes a tad overrated myself- many Edmonton fans are excited about the prospect of landing him but considering his age and the season he put up he'll want decent money and even more decent term. This could end up being a misplay by the oil long term. Im thinking Tampa/Carolina make a play and Nashville might be a darkhorse depending on the price as a Suter replacement- although again term is a problem there as the preds have an embarassment of talent on the backend coming down the pipeline. Also any team in on the Suter Hunt may have this guy as their plan B. So in closing I basically have no idea where he goes but wherever it is- I still feel its a mistake- he'll be overpaid and signed for too long. 11. Tootoo- I actually read most of this guys biography and have a little more respect for him than the average fan. Hes a pretty big deal and to Canadian aboriginals as the first Inuk and also the first player out of Nunavut to play in the NHL. I think hes going to sign with a canadian team and his rough style fits with a lot of whats going on in Calgary. He'll be a thorn in the canucks sides and as a bonus should probably balance out the diving calls per game when the two teams meet. 12. Carle- Kind of the same boat as Garrison although you know a little bit better what you'll be getting. Solid defensive minutes and sporadic bursts of offense. At this point hes probably the better option (in my opinion anyways)- and will likely be looking for less. I think the same list of teams pursuing Garrison will be interested and who ever signs him will probably end up with the better deal as they wont have to invest in the same potential. 13. Boyes- So hard not to agree with the CLB train of thought. Youd have to be pretty desperate at this point to roll the dice on Boyes who almost seems to be cheechooing his way out of the league. From Boyes standpoint I think its really a definitive year in terms of establishing that hes still a servicable NHL player and unless he can milk a long term contract out of Howson it could end up being a disaster on both ends. 14. Souray- This ones tougher- keep in mind he already turned down a significant extension offer from the stars. To be honest Souray is not earning a lot of brownie points around the league- lol! We do know he is uber competetive but plays a game that is a bit outdated, has declining footspeed, and maybe one of the biggest egos in the league. I think he'll be one of the last holdouts while his agent tries to convince him hes not going to get what he thinks he desserves and in the end will opt for the most competetive team in the mix that has a hole on their backend PP. Ill say Tampa- where his age and tenure will be thought of as positives and on his end they are most likely a playoff team (assuming the Lindback experiment doesnt explode). When its all said and done still not sure its a great fit though as Souray doesnt strike me as a great leader/dressing room guy- for all the youth that tampa has collected. On the plus side a 1a-Stamkos one timer, and 1b-Souray cannon- on the pp would give opposing goalies nightmares. 15. Penner- Penner realizes a good thing when hes got it this time around and extends in LA for a slight discount. Meanwhile California Ihops quarterly profits have doubled y next season... Sorry about the obligatory pancake joke- its just so hard not to when a guy literally sustains an injury eating pancakes! - Fighting_Emu Fri, 29 Jun 2012 07:08:42 +0100 http://hockey.dobbersports.com/index.php/jeff-angus/4720-the-ufa-guessing-game#comment-21533 I think the guesses put forth have been great so far so Im going to try and go off the board and make a few contrarian picks for kicks. 1.Suter- I know Detroit/Pitt have to be the front runners but, Im going to say he does Lebron it up a little bit and sign in Minny for all the current speculation about being great friends with Parise and being close to home. I think the situation is much diefferent than the Heat though- two great hard working players joining a non-playoff hockey team isnt going to upset league chemistery like it did in the NBA. 2. Parise- See Suter above, although he is truly the hometown boy having played in the Shattuck-St Marys program that his father worked. It would be an unprecented coup for Minny if they could pull this off- so the odds are obviously quite slim- lol! Realistically hes probably in the same Det/Pitt discussion as Suter. 3. Semin- So much talent- so little drive. Its a shame- any team that signs him will end up losing because he just doesnt have that competitive streak you need in the post season (imho anyways). For that reason Ill say KHL- but I dont have any insider info. Hes going to want money/term/preferential treatment but the book is already out on this guy and fans/scouts/gms have already soured on his lack of compete. If he stays hes likely going to a team absolutely desperate for topline talent- Im thinking Columbus or Calgary here. 4.Whitney- I think the Wizard is being pursued by the same group of teams interested in PArtentau and even Hudler although winning now is likely a lot higher on Whitneys list of priorities. Im going to say Tampa. Great fit with a shoot first center in Stamkos, a shot at being a contender by next year, great weather, an active senior citizens community- Tampa and Whitney are perfect fit! 5. Jokinen- I actually think he had a pretty solid year all things considered and in the right role (for the right money) could be a great 2nd line option. Im going to go with the consensus again and say Anaheim. Ryan gets traded, Sellanne re-signs, Saku shifts to the wing, they form the all Finn second line (dubbed the finnish finishers) and I see a hell of a lot more duck jerseys around Thunder Bay! 6. Doan- He could be the veteran presence, proven winner and archetypal leader that Edmonton needs to make a big step next year. In that regard he is absolutely perfect for that dressing room and can still pack a whallop on the ice as well. On his end he would have to be pretty sure thats the case because at 36 hes not getting any younger and likely has eyes for the cup. Also edmonton has some glating holes on the backend which might take them out of the running for Doan as they focus their free agent dollars/attention there. 7. Parenteau- Pitt just makes too much sense with Malkin and Neal. Hes also the second tier gamble that the penguins seem to love to make. Barring that I also dont think a NYI extension after the 1st is out of the question either. Such a mixed opinion on this guy- have no insight on that- but will definitely be interesting to see what happens if he lands on a line that doesnt include John Tavares. - Fighting_Emu Fri, 29 Jun 2012 07:08:03 +0100 http://hockey.dobbersports.com/index.php/jeff-angus/4720-the-ufa-guessing-game#comment-21531 1. Ryan Suter - NJ, 7 years - 41 M 2. Zach Parise - Chicago, 8 years - 60 M 3. Alexander Semin - Pittsburgh, 1 year - 5,5 M 4. Ray Whitney - Colorado, 1 year - 3.5 M 5. Olli Jokinen - Dallas, 3 years - 14 M 6. Shane Doan - Florida, 2 years - 8 M 7. PA Parenteau - Calgary, 5 years - 22 M 8. Jiri Hudler - Vancouver, 2 years - 6.5 M 9. Jaromir Jagr - Detroit, 1 year - 3.5 M 10. Jason Garrison - Dallas, 4 years - 9.5 M 11. Jordin Tootoo - Philadelphia, 5 years - 8 M 12. Matt Carle - Edmonton, 5 years - 25 M 13. Brad Boyes - Minnesota, 4 years - 14 M 14. Sheldon Souray - Washington, 1 year - 3 M 15. Dustin Penner - Montreal, 3 years - 10 M - McFly Fri, 29 Jun 2012 06:33:21 +0100 http://hockey.dobbersports.com/index.php/jeff-angus/4720-the-ufa-guessing-game#comment-21524 1.Suter- Detroit 2. Parise- Minnesota (after Bettman screws up and forgets which teams hes running) 3. Semin- Dallas 4.Whitney- Phoenix 5. Jokinen- Anaheim 6. Doan- Vancouver (again Bettman screws up) 7. Parenteau- Pittsburgh 8. Hudler- Dallas 9. Jagr- Philly...or maybe Detroit 10. Garrison- Nashville 11. Tootoo- Calgary 12. Carle- Philly maybe NYR 13. Boyes- Columbus? 14. Souray- Philly 15. Penner- LA - Rollie1967 Thu, 28 Jun 2012 22:22:31 +0100 http://hockey.dobbersports.com/index.php/jeff-angus/4720-the-ufa-guessing-game#comment-21521 Probably spelling wrong, but isn't Mueller worth being on the list... Probably low-risk/high-reward signing. - Czechline Thu, 28 Jun 2012 16:24:39 +0100 http://hockey.dobbersports.com/index.php/jeff-angus/4720-the-ufa-guessing-game#comment-21520 1. Ryan Suter, TOR 7 years @ $7,000,000 2. Zach Parise, TOR 7 years @ $8,000,000 3. Alexander Semin, TOR 2 years @ $6,500,000 4. Ray Whitney, TOR 1 year @ $2,500,000 5. Olli Jokinen, TOR 3 years @ $4,500,000 6. Shane Doan, TOR 2 years @ $5,000,000 7. PA Parenteau, TOR 4 years @ $3,750,000 8. Jiri Hudler, TOR 2 years @ $3,250,000 9. Jaromir Jagr, TOR 1 year @ $3,500,000 10. Jason Garrison, TOR 4 years @ $3,500,000 11. Jordin Tootoo, TOR 2 years @ $1,250,000 12. Matt Carle, TOR 5 years @ $4,500,000 13. Brad Boyes, TOR 1 year @ $1,500,000 14. Sheldon Souray, TOR 2 years @ $2,500,000 15. Dustin Penner, TOR 3 years @ $3,333,333 - hansel_is Thu, 28 Jun 2012 15:32:37 +0100 http://hockey.dobbersports.com/index.php/jeff-angus/4720-the-ufa-guessing-game#comment-21519 1. Ryan Suter, PIT - 7 years, 54 million (7.7) 2. Zach Parise, NJ - 6 years, 45 million (7.5) 3. Alex Semin, DET - 3 years, 21 million (7.0) 4. Ray Whitney, CAR - 2 years, 7 million (3.5) 5. Olli Jokinen, ANH - 1 year, 2.5 million (2.5) 6. Shane Doan, DET - 2 years, 8 million (4.0) 7. PA Parenteau, OTT - 4 years, 17 million (4.25) 8. Jiri Hudler, WSH - 4 years, 15 million (3.75) 9. Jaromir Jagr, PHI - 1 year, 3.75 million (3.75) 10. Jason Garrison, STL - 4 years, 15 million (3.75) 11. Jordin Tootoo, TOR - 2 years, 3.25 million (1.6) 12. Matt Carle, DAL - 3 years, 13 million (4.3) 13. Brad Boyes, TOR - 1 year, 3 million (3.0) 14. Sheldon Souray, WSH - 2 years, 7 million (3.5) 15. Dustin Penner, LA - 4 years, 17 million (4.25) - A1Sports Thu, 28 Jun 2012 14:28:58 +0100 http://hockey.dobbersports.com/index.php/jeff-angus/4720-the-ufa-guessing-game#comment-21518 Just an FYI, I have set up a Trade and FA predictions contest on the forum! http://forums.dobbersports.com/showthread.php?t=135070 - dmvincent Thu, 28 Jun 2012 14:10:58 +0100 http://hockey.dobbersports.com/index.php/jeff-angus/4720-the-ufa-guessing-game#comment-21517 1. Ryan Suter - Nashville, 7 years and $52.5 million 2. Zach Parise - Minnesota, 8 years and $64 million 3. Alexander Semin - Calgary, 5 years and $ 32.5 million 4. Ray Whitney - Detroit, 2 years and $7.5 million 5. Olli Jokinen - Dallas, 3 years and $16.5 million 6. Shane Doan - Phoenix, 4 years and $18 million 7. PA Parenteau - Montreal, 2 years and $5 million 8. Jiri Hudler - Vancouver, 2 years and $6.25 million 9. Jaromir Jagr - Washington, 1 year and $3.5 million 10. Jason Garrison - Washington, 3 years and $8.1 million 11. Jordin Tootoo - Dallas, 1 year and $1.25 million 12. Matt Carle - Edmonton, 5 years and $22 million 13. Brad Boyes - Columbus, 4 years and $16.4 million 14. Sheldon Souray - Dallas, 1 year and $3.1 million 15. Dustin Penner - Anaheim, 3 years and $9.6 million - Bender Thu, 28 Jun 2012 13:43:57 +0100 http://hockey.dobbersports.com/index.php/jeff-angus/4720-the-ufa-guessing-game#comment-21516 1. Ryan Suter-Detroit. ( 8 years, 7 mil cap hit) I think Kenny wants him more than Parise. It's not often a player can step into Detroit and not be behind anybody. He likes the area, wants to win, and is a family oriented guy. This organization gives him what he needs. 2. Zach Parise-NJ.(10 years 8 mil cap hit) He made it to the finals, he likes it there, if they can come up with $9 mil per, he stays. Detroit and Minny are probably his options if they can't. 3. Alexander Semin-Stars. ( 3 years 5.5 mil hit) He wants to be a go to guy, and he will there. They have the money, and will take the risk as they don't have a shot at the big prize. 4. Ray Whitney-TB. (2 years 4 mil hit) He has a home in Florida, and he would make an excellent line mate for Stammer. A pass first winger should want to play with the best goal scorer in the league. 5. Olli Jokinen ANA. (2 years 3.5 mil hit) They need a #2 C badly, and there are no other choices. His size and board play fit into the system very well. His L shot would complement Getzlav's R. 6. Shane Doan. ( 3 years 5 mil hit) I'll go out on a limb and say Boston. They haven't filled the hole left by Recchi, and they proved they missed that veteran presence. With the hole Thomas crap going on, leadership will be needed in spades to get them through. 7. PA Parenteau- ( 3 years 4 mil hit) He'll look around, and probably return. Unless someone offers much more than NYI, then he'll go. But he must take a lesson from the Anson Carters of the world. Don't abandon chemistry. If someone does offer him a better deal ,it will probably be VAN. He would be a decent fit with the Sedin's and allow Burrows to play with Kesler on the 2nd line where he belongs. 8. Jiri Hudler-( 6 years 5 mil hit) He will betray his old team and go with Nashville. They need scoring, and he'll be locked in a top 6 spot. He'll ease the loss of the curfew cretins. 9. Jaromir Jagr- PENS. ( 1 year 4.5 mil hit) The signing of Crosby made it clear that the money wasn't cleared up for praise. He almost went back last year, and I believe a chance to play with Crosby will be the deciding factor. 10. Jason Garrison-ANA. (3 years 4 mil hit) After trading Vishnovski, they need some more offence. He would fit in with the group, and they don't have a shot a Suter. 11. Jordin Tootoo-EDM.(2 years 1.8 mil hit) He's the role player they need. And he can skate with anyone. He sure won't be afraid of Edmonton winters, either. 12. Matt Carle-TB. ( 5 years 5 mil hit) He would be a top pairing guy, and his playmaking would be welcome on the top PP unit. 13. Brad Boyes. Somewhere off the radar. CLB maybe? ( 2 years 3 mil hit) They will probably need some pop after dealing Nash. I could see them writing him a cheque. 14. Sheldon Souray- SJ. ( 2 years 4 mil hit) A lefty for the point is on the wish list. They're still a contender, but have room on D for the vet. 15. Dustin Penner-VAN. ( 3 years 4 mil hit) See PA Parenteau. All the same reasons, but I think the power game of Penner may be the better choice along the Sedin's. He plays a similar style to them as far as cycling goes. - mormerod Thu, 28 Jun 2012 13:30:22 +0100 http://hockey.dobbersports.com/index.php/jeff-angus/4720-the-ufa-guessing-game#comment-21515 Ryan Suter - Detroit, 5 years @ 8.0 cap hit Zach Parise - New Jersey, 5 years @ 7.5 cap hit Alex Semin - KHL Ray Whitney - Nashville, 2 years @ 5.0 cap hit Olli Jokinen - Buffalo, 2 years @ 5.0 cap hit Shane Doan - Vancouver, 3 years @ 5.5 cap hit PA Parenteau - Ottawa, 3 years @ 4.0 cap hit Jiri Hudler - N.Y. Rangers, 3 years @ 3.75 cap hit Jaromir Jagr - Calgary, 1 year @ 4.5 cap hit Jason Garrison - Tampa Bay, 5 years @ 5.25 cap hit Jordin Tootoo - Winnipeg, 2 years @ 2.0 cap hit Matt Carle - Philadelphia, 3 years @ 4.5 cap hit Brad Boyes - Detroit, 1 year @ 1.8 cap hit Sheldon Souray - Florida, 2 years @ 3.0 cap hit Dustin Penner - IHOP...no kidding..., 2 years @ 3.0 cap hit - Death_from_above Thu, 28 Jun 2012 13:21:04 +0100 http://hockey.dobbersports.com/index.php/jeff-angus/4720-the-ufa-guessing-game#comment-21514 Schultz isn't on the list because he has to sign an ELC so he won't get big bucks he'll only get to choose the best opportunity for his personal life, playing time and winning. - davidgoodburn Thu, 28 Jun 2012 13:12:05 +0100 http://hockey.dobbersports.com/index.php/jeff-angus/4720-the-ufa-guessing-game#comment-21513 Not throwing Schultz on there Jangus? - Zangief Thu, 28 Jun 2012 12:56:10 +0100 http://hockey.dobbersports.com/index.php/jeff-angus/4720-the-ufa-guessing-game#comment-21512 Ryan Suter - Detroit, 12 year deal with a $7.0 million cap hit (front loaded) Zach Parise - Pittsburgh, 8 years @ 7.7 cap hit Alex Semin - Detroit, 3 years @ 4.7 cap hit Ray Whitney - Carolina, 2 years @ 4.5 cap hit Olli Jokinen - Columbus, 3 years @ 4.75 cap hit Shane Doan - Toronto, 4 years @ 5.0 cap hit PA Parenteau - Montreal, 6 years @ 4.5 cap hit Jiri Hudler - Vancouver, 3 years @ 3.75 cap hit Jaromir Jagr - Edmonton, 1 year @ 4.5 cap hit Jason Garrison - Islanders, 4 years @ 4.5 cap hit Jordin Tootoo - Winnipeg, 2 years @ 2.25 cap hit Matt Carle - Islanders, 5 years @ 6.0 cap hit Brad Boyes - Detroit, 1 year @ 2.3 cap hit Sheldon Souray - Carolina, 2 years @ 3.0 cap hit Dustin Penner - Winnipeg, 3 years @ 3.3 cap hit - MikeV Thu, 28 Jun 2012 12:50:56 +0100 http://hockey.dobbersports.com/index.php/jeff-angus/4720-the-ufa-guessing-game#comment-21511 1. Ryan Suter-Detroit. I think Kenny wants him more than Parise. It's not often a player can step into Detroit and not be behind anybody. He likes the area, wants to win, and is a family oriented guy. This organization gives him what he needs. 2. Zach Parise-NJ. He made it to the finals, he likes it there, if they can come up with $9 mil per, he stays. Detroit and Minny are probably his options if they can't. 3. Alexander Semin-Stars. He wants to be a go to guy, and he will there. They have the money, and will take the risk as they don't have a shot at the big prize. 4. Ray Whitney-TB. He has a home in Florida, and he would make an excellent line mate for Stammer. A pass first winger should want to play with the best goal scorer in the league. 5. Olli Jokinen ANA. They need a #2 C badly, and there are no other choices. His size and board play fit into the system very well. His L shot would complement Getzlav's R. 6. Shane Doan. I'll go out on a limb and say Boston. They haven't filled the hole left by Recchi, and they proved they missed that veteran presence. With the hole Thomas crap going on, leadership will be needed in spades to get them through. 7. PA Parenteau- He'll look around, and probably return. Unless someone offers much more than NYI, then he'll go. But he must take a lesson from the Anson Carters of the world. Don't abandon chemistry. If someone does offer him a better deal ,it will probably be VAN. He would be a decent fit with the Sedin's and allow Burrows to play with Kesler on the 2nd line where he belongs. 8. Jiri Hudler-He will betray his old team and go with Nashville. They need scoring, and he'll be locked in a top 6 spot. He'll ease the loss of the curfew cretins. 9. Jaromir Jagr- PENS. The signing of Crosby made it clear that the money wasn't cleared up for praise. He almost went back last year, and I believe a chance to play with Crosby will be the deciding factor. 10. Jason Garrison-ANA. After trading Vishnovski, they need some more offence. He would fit in with the group, and they don't have a shot a Suter. 11. Jordin Tootoo-EDM. He's the role player they need. And he can skate with anyone. He sure won't be afraid of Edmonton winters, either. 12. Matt Carle-TB. He would be a top pairing guy, and his playmaking would be welcome on the top PP unit. 13. Brad Boyes. Somewhere off the radar. CLB maybe? They will probably need some pop after dealing Nash. I could see them writing him a cheque. 14. Sheldon Souray- SJ. A lefty for the point is on the wish list. They're still a contender, but have room on D for the vet. 15. Dustin Penner-VAN. See PA Parenteau. All the same reasons, but I think the power game of Penner may be the better choice along the Sedin's. He plays a similar style to them as far as cycling goes. - mormerod Thu, 28 Jun 2012 12:49:27 +0100 http://hockey.dobbersports.com/index.php/jeff-angus/4720-the-ufa-guessing-game#comment-21510 1. Ryan Suter - Detroit 7 yr 7.5 mil per 2. Zach Parise - Pittsburgh 7 yr 7.5 mil per 3. Alexander Semin - Detroit 2 yr 5.5 mil per 4. Ray Whitney - Phoenix 1 yr 4 mil 5. Olli Jokinen - Calgary 2 yr 4 mil per 6. Shane Doan - Phoenix 1 yr 4.5 mil 7. PA Parenteau - Minnesota 2 yr 2.5 mil per 8. Jiri Hudler - Kings 3 yr 4 mil per 9. Jaromir Jagr - Philly 1 yr 4.5 mil 10. Jason Garrison - Vancouver 5 yr 4.5 mil per 11. Jordin Tootoo - Sharks 3 yr 3 mil per 12. Matt Carle - Philly 4 yr 4.25 mil per 13. Brad Boyes - Pittsburgh 2 yr 2.5 mil per 14. Sheldon Souray - Boston 2 yr 3 mil per 15. Dustin Penner - Kings 3 yr 4 mil per - phaneuf_fan_3 Thu, 28 Jun 2012 12:39:32 +0100