Comments for June 25, 2012 at http://hockey.dobbersports.com , comment 1 to 9 out of 9 comments http://hockey.dobbersports.com Mon, 20 May 2013 18:06:56 +0100 FeedCreator 1.7.3 http://hockey.dobbersports.com/index.php/home-mainmenu-1/24-rambling/4713-june-25-2012#comment-21455 I guess my point is when everyone says that Burke needs to "go out and get a #1 center", that's not automatically the answer. And to say that he needs to do it when maybe there are only a handful in the league means that you are trying to acquire the type of player that everyone wants/needs and can never get enough of (Pittsburgh). I cheer for Calgary and they have been saying the same thing for years that "Iginla needs a #1 center to play with", but doesn't that really mean that Calgary is just not good enough? Maybe the bigger problem in TO is bad goaltending, team defense, and a solid system. We see examples every year where teams that are built like that actually have playoff success, such as New Jersey, Phoenix, and Nashville. - Bender Mon, 25 Jun 2012 18:04:31 +0100 http://hockey.dobbersports.com/index.php/home-mainmenu-1/24-rambling/4713-june-25-2012#comment-21453 I don't know Bender, your argument sort of defeats itself. Of all those #1 Centers you just listed, how many of the last post lockout Stanley Cup Champions had so called #1 centers (or ones that a case could be made for)? LA - Kopitar, M.Richards BOS - Krejci CHI - Toews PIT - Crosby, Malkin DET - Datsuyk, Zetterberg ANA - Getzlaf, McDonald (78pt season) CAR - Staal, Brindamour (70pt season) Sure the #1 center may not be the end all be all of winning a cup, but it sure looks like your odds are MUCH MUCH higher with one (or two) than without. - BlackGold Mon, 25 Jun 2012 12:58:04 +0100 http://hockey.dobbersports.com/index.php/home-mainmenu-1/24-rambling/4713-june-25-2012#comment-21452 Tweeted by Aaron Portzline of the Columbus Post-Dispatch. "Told by very good source #Canucks G Roberto Luongo has -- to this point -- declined to waive no-trade clause to go to #Blackhawks or #Leafs," Portzline tweeted Monday. "Luongo using the power of his no-trade to 'steer' a trade to #Panthers as much as possible at this point in off-season." - Knuckles Mon, 25 Jun 2012 12:51:45 +0100 http://hockey.dobbersports.com/index.php/home-mainmenu-1/24-rambling/4713-june-25-2012#comment-21450 I think that this whole concept of the #1 center being so important is flawed. Isn't the most important thing you need from your 1st line is production? Whether that comes from your C, LW, or RW positions is irrelevant. This year, NJ made it to the final with Zajac as their #1 center. Is he considered a legitimate #1 center? For arguments sake, there are probably 16 legitimate #1 centers in the league, in no particular order: Crosby, Malkin, Stamkos, Backstrom, H Sedin, E Staal, Getzlaf, Kopitar, Thornton, Spezza, B Richards, Tavaras, Giroux (is he center?), Toews, Datsyuk, Zetterberg. Now this list may vary depending on opinion and some players change position. The case can be made for a number of other players, such as M Richards, Carter, Krecji, Kesler, Lecavalier, Benn (if he's playing center). There are 14 teams represented with this list, meaning 16 teams in the league need a legitimate #1 center. But there are very good teams who do not have a name on this list, such as New Jersey, Phoenix, and St. Louis, and there are teams represented on this list that did not make the playoffs, like NYI, Carolina, Tampa Bay, and Anaheim. Because of this, in my opinion the #1 center argument is too overplayed. Of course, all 30 teams would love to have one of these guys on their roster, and some have the benefit of having 2, but it does not solve all your problems. And if you don't have one of those 16, then how do you acquire one? Of the 16, 14 were drafted by their current team, Thornton was traded in arguably a stupid trade, and B Richards was signed as a free agent. I don't like the Maple Leafs, but I think Burke is doing a decent job and with Luongo they will likely be a playoff team. - Bender Mon, 25 Jun 2012 09:29:04 +0100 http://hockey.dobbersports.com/index.php/home-mainmenu-1/24-rambling/4713-june-25-2012#comment-21449 Say what? Bozak's not a legitimate number 1 centre? Need more than a goalie IMO too - MGW Mon, 25 Jun 2012 07:18:29 +0100 http://hockey.dobbersports.com/index.php/home-mainmenu-1/24-rambling/4713-june-25-2012#comment-21447 I totally I agree you about Matt Read. Great player and he will keep it up next year. - GoHabsGo Mon, 25 Jun 2012 04:45:59 +0100 http://hockey.dobbersports.com/index.php/home-mainmenu-1/24-rambling/4713-june-25-2012#comment-21446 Schultz is heading to TO to meet with his agents at Newport, whose HQ is in Toronto. As per TSN or NHL Network at the draft (can't remember if I heard it on the first or second day) he will spend today and tomorrow with them face to face analyzing depth charts and team situations and looking at the offers they get. Then he takes a few days to mull it over and make a decision. There's not going to be much negotiating needed there because he is still under the CBA which sets term limits and caps on salary and bonuses. It's pretty obvious any team that wants him will have to give him the max on term, salary, and bonuses. The decision will be based on team, depth chart, opportunity to play, opportunity to win, etc. - fzusher Mon, 25 Jun 2012 01:59:42 +0100 http://hockey.dobbersports.com/index.php/home-mainmenu-1/24-rambling/4713-june-25-2012#comment-21445 not sure I buy the TML 'got over' on the flyers, but I will buy that JVR has more upside than Schenn does. Then again Philly had to address their backline and they also managed to reduce their cap hit while at the same time trade a very potential band aid boy to Burke. Lets hope JVR suits up for all 82. But I suppose the offseason is a golden time when every team's fans believe they have a shot at the cup so why spoil the parade in Toronto. - donpaulo Mon, 25 Jun 2012 00:27:45 +0100 http://hockey.dobbersports.com/index.php/home-mainmenu-1/24-rambling/4713-june-25-2012#comment-21444 so they get Schultz and all they need is a goalie?....no they don't need a #1 centre, they're fine with that they got! - Big Ev Sun, 24 Jun 2012 21:26:33 +0100