Comments for January 19, 2012 at http://hockey.dobbersports.com , comment 1 to 12 out of 12 comments http://hockey.dobbersports.com Thu, 20 Jun 2013 07:46:07 +0100 FeedCreator 1.7.3 http://hockey.dobbersports.com/index.php/other-features-mainmenu-89/archived-ramblings/4306-january-19-2012#comment-19038 Thanks for sharing this article good read...your posts always offer thoughtful ideas to consider... - mike hess Thu, 19 Jan 2012 17:25:03 +0100 http://hockey.dobbersports.com/index.php/other-features-mainmenu-89/archived-ramblings/4306-january-19-2012#comment-19033 [url]http://postmediaedmonton.files.wordpress.com/2012/01/499182109.jpg?w=480&h=360[/url] [url]http://desmond.yfrog.com/Himg857/scaled.php?tn=0&server=857&filename=4y5y.jpg&xsize=640&ysize=640[/url] Pictures of Hall's face post-injury if anyone cares. - Username Thu, 19 Jan 2012 09:18:30 +0100 http://hockey.dobbersports.com/index.php/other-features-mainmenu-89/archived-ramblings/4306-january-19-2012#comment-19030 hits are not the best stat, but none of the stats used to put a number on grit are very good. PIM can be won and lost based on a rookie being a bonehead, They can actually hurt their NHL team. So there is a push to go to another stat. That leaves 2 biggies of HITs and fighting majors. since there is a real decrease in goons, fighting majors have gone down, and while they subjectivly can help a team, isn;t a solid check better than a fight. I agree that hits add no value to guys who are super stars, and that is not a good thing, PIM were never a big stat for almost all of those guys to start with. Kessel, Spezza, ect do not get called too often since they do not do too many risky behaviors that result in big hits or penalties. So going with PIM or HITS really does not effect all that many star players so long as you were going to use one or the other. The big shift in value is from goons (in PIM) to checking 3rd liners (hits). I would much rather have Martin, Clutterbuck, brown or one of the other big time hitters on my NHL team than Zenon, Rinaldo or one of the other PIM guys. They are just capable of doing more on the ice, and not just going out there a few minutes to puff out their chest and try to pick a fight. - notoriousjim Thu, 19 Jan 2012 07:41:15 +0100 http://hockey.dobbersports.com/index.php/other-features-mainmenu-89/archived-ramblings/4306-january-19-2012#comment-19029 noglovenolove: Ummm, you haven't noticed loads of guys doing that until now? - sentium Thu, 19 Jan 2012 07:33:47 +0100 http://hockey.dobbersports.com/index.php/other-features-mainmenu-89/archived-ramblings/4306-january-19-2012#comment-19028 Pengwin, Logical point. Thanks for explaining your stance. - Jeff Angus Thu, 19 Jan 2012 07:28:23 +0100 http://hockey.dobbersports.com/index.php/other-features-mainmenu-89/archived-ramblings/4306-january-19-2012#comment-19026 Palmieri's numbers are really impressive. Any idea why Ducks don't give him any chance? Not considering few last games their offense was atrocious all season long. They lack scoring depth but still gave Palmieri around 10 minutes of ice time when he was up. Is there some coach/management issue i don't know? Hope he gets traded soon somewhere, where he'll get an opportunity. - Lukas Polak Thu, 19 Jan 2012 06:23:40 +0100 http://hockey.dobbersports.com/index.php/other-features-mainmenu-89/archived-ramblings/4306-january-19-2012#comment-19025 He was wearing a visor. When did it become ok for guys to fight with visors on? - noglovenolove Thu, 19 Jan 2012 05:57:50 +0100 http://hockey.dobbersports.com/index.php/other-features-mainmenu-89/archived-ramblings/4306-january-19-2012#comment-19024 Very nice rambling - enormous amount of great information. I could throw you the 99 compliments you deserve or just choose to nit-pick one item. First off - Matt Martin! Windsor, Ontario! (hometown boy!!!) I own Martin in 3/6 pools I'm doing this year. Statistically he's very helpful with a reasonable amount of SOG and solid PIM (better than Haley, eh!). The HITS are the kicker. It makes him a must-own in all HITS leagues. Not a big deal... but I don't know if anybody should be a [i]big fan[/i] of hits. Yes, it's a more-positive statistic than PIM - but is it really "positive" in general? Nicklas Lidstrom has been the best defenseman in the game for years-and-years and is credited with very few hits. A hockey pool including hits significantly brings down the value of true-superstars such as Marty St.Louis & Henrik Sedin. Are these guys any less valuable because they don't hit? I, personally, don't think their real NHL-value is higher if they start hitting - so how can it be a truly positive statistic? Hockey is all about winning & scoring more goals. This is all reflected in a player's plus/minus (especially relative to their teammates). A player can do whatever he wants on the ice, Hits/Takeaways/Giveaways/FOWvFOL... I don't give a flying foo about these statistics [b]because the impact of all the little things a player does on the ice will show up in their PLUS/MINUS[/b]. I mean... everything a player does on the ice should give them a better shot at being a PLUS and avoid being a MINUS. Personally, I don't think anybody should be a "big fan" of hits. Most of the time the player being hit has already moved the puck and the hit itself takes the hitter out of the play for an extra second-or-two. Realistically, hitting is exciting/intimidating and selling tickets is still part of overall real-NHL player-value. As a real-NHL statistic, I think it's just one more statistic to discuss. And I'd bet if you look at the top 10 hitters in the NHL each year - you'll probably find a lot of MINUS players - just a hunch. (I haven't checked). Maybe I'm wrong. - Pengwin7 Thu, 19 Jan 2012 04:51:44 +0100 http://hockey.dobbersports.com/index.php/other-features-mainmenu-89/archived-ramblings/4306-january-19-2012#comment-19023 My latest, 20 sleepers: http://thehockeywriters.com/20-players-to-watch-under-20-owned-shaw-desharnais-and-more/ - littleranger Thu, 19 Jan 2012 04:27:10 +0100 http://hockey.dobbersports.com/index.php/other-features-mainmenu-89/archived-ramblings/4306-january-19-2012#comment-19020 2 goals 1 assist last night. He is looking 100 times better than he did in October, and he says he feels great and he is getting stronger and better with every game. Great to see! - Martin Thu, 19 Jan 2012 01:48:29 +0100 http://hockey.dobbersports.com/index.php/other-features-mainmenu-89/archived-ramblings/4306-january-19-2012#comment-19018 top of paragraph three should read: "...positive correlations between [i]points to[/i]ice time and shot totals?" - Jim Phair Wed, 18 Jan 2012 21:27:30 +0100 http://hockey.dobbersports.com/index.php/other-features-mainmenu-89/archived-ramblings/4306-january-19-2012#comment-19017 First, seeing a lot of statistical analysis getting chucked around in fantasy hockey - specifically on this site and links from it - right now. And why not? Math is powerful as hell (remember that kids!). Moneyball evidently made it even hotter and it all goes hand in hand with all the ground-breaking hockey analytics talk in fantasy circles before the season began. Now, I did my degree in Mathematics and have used my own combinations of stats and feel in my pool for years (doing just fine thank you) and so I'm all for the promotion of math in any way. However, part of the beauty for hockey, in my mind anyway, is that it seems to be the one major North American sport that actually minimizes stats and its application to what matters most to an NHL team: W's. In fantasy hockey? Apply away...positive correlations between ice time and shot totals? Well, yeah...no doubt. Actually crunching the numbers to approximate (yes) what those correlations might be? Absolutely. Go to town. But NHL hockey is loaded with intangibles that play a HUGE role in producing, again, the W's. Anyone else think Canadian 'Heart' in terms of hockey is real? Thought so. Burrows: This season is on pace for 35 goals in a full 82 game slate. His past three seasons are 26, 35, and 28. With everything Burrows does for the Canucks and for how long he's been doing it (signing for less ring a bell?), I say he deserves every bit of ice-time and opportunity he gets - and more! So if there's an opening on the power play (and I would prefer him not on the point), then how can there be any doubt that he's the guy to get it? "...Alex Burrows - who has never been a power-play producer really..." Oh come on. Of course one can't be a power-play producer when one doesn't play the power play in the first place. All this sounds like a bit of fantasy self-serving nonsense to plug Hodgson over Burrows. I expected better than this... - Jim Phair Wed, 18 Jan 2012 21:24:38 +0100