Comments for 15 Prime Cuts: Gallagher, Eberle, Schenn, and more at http://hockey.dobbersports.com , comment 1 to 11 out of 11 comments http://hockey.dobbersports.com Sat, 25 May 2013 23:50:25 +0100 FeedCreator 1.7.3 http://hockey.dobbersports.com/index.php/jeff-angus/4268-15-prime-cuts-gallagher-eberle-schenn-and-more#comment-18769 Gotta agree with Angus about Tambellini. His offense-first plan from the get-go is one that will win you some regular season games but probably fail in the playoffs. This is a team with no current high upside defensemen in their prospect pool (Klefbom is a solid 2nd pairing, others just ok potential IMO). They will never be a Chicago or Pittsburgh because of this. Tambellini goes up to the podium with a smug look on his face every year, but the fact is that most other teams aren't jealous because they know you don' need 1st overall picks to succeed in this league. So I'd wait for Tambellini to go up the the podium with a smug look on his face, and if his staff pick yet another forward then I might can them. - Big Ev Mon, 09 Jan 2012 06:33:00 +0100 http://hockey.dobbersports.com/index.php/jeff-angus/4268-15-prime-cuts-gallagher-eberle-schenn-and-more#comment-18765 You have got to acknowledge Derek Stepan in the redraft 2008 even though he is not a first rounder. Surprised still how many teams overlooked this guy. If I was able to do it today the draft would go Stamkos, Doughty, Karlsson, Stepan, Eberle. - bogans Mon, 09 Jan 2012 05:06:04 +0100 http://hockey.dobbersports.com/index.php/jeff-angus/4268-15-prime-cuts-gallagher-eberle-schenn-and-more#comment-18760 They have been spinning their tires for a while now. But Kevin Lowe really handcuffed this team with awful signings(Penner/Horcoff) and mismanagement. Imo he was the worst GM in hockey while he was the GM. And I'm an Oiler fan. Tambellini is close to getting it right. You are right that the offseason defensive signings were not up to snuff. But Sutton is a great vet that the team needs. He hasn't played poorly. He's played like Andy Sutton if you know what I mean. I'd like to give Tambellini more time but Lowe needs to go. Tambellini is stuck with Horcoff so he's trying to make lemonade out of that lemon contract. I'm not sure how they screwed up the Hemsky situation. When he signed that contract I thought it was a great price for a potential 80pt player. He was supposed to be a centre piece for the team and not trade bait. The Oil don't need to trade him for more prospects. They need immediate defensive help and I'd rather see Gagner dealt. Their team is still just way too young and have been riddled with injuries to key players to really make the next step yet. Before the season started I predicted them to finish 10th in the conference. If RNH/Eberle and Whitney don't come back soon they will not finish that high. - Mr Sausage Sun, 08 Jan 2012 22:23:56 +0100 http://hockey.dobbersports.com/index.php/jeff-angus/4268-15-prime-cuts-gallagher-eberle-schenn-and-more#comment-18755 Fair enough Steve, I just couldn't help pointing those two items out. The oilers have the assets to get another dman, but i think the plan is to compete in 2013 after they get another top draft pick. Its pretty obvious they made the right choice with RNH, i would think they go for dman in 2012. - mick Sun, 08 Jan 2012 19:14:07 +0100 http://hockey.dobbersports.com/index.php/jeff-angus/4268-15-prime-cuts-gallagher-eberle-schenn-and-more#comment-18754 Mick. I think you are proving that it is the exception not the rule. My point. You also can't criticize a team for not being able to swindle a top notch level defenseman. That's another situation that's an exception rather than the rule. - steve laidlaw Sun, 08 Jan 2012 18:48:18 +0100 http://hockey.dobbersports.com/index.php/jeff-angus/4268-15-prime-cuts-gallagher-eberle-schenn-and-more#comment-18753 Love the coiler canucks rivalry!!! I have a great rivalry going with 4 or 5 guys i have done pools with for like ten years! quote Vancouver Sun Feb 17th 2011: "With today’s announcement that top blueliner Kevin Bieksa (left) will be sidelined for roughly three weeks with a broken foot, it would seem that the news can’t get much worse. Indeed, the number and calibre of defensemen on the Canucks’ injured list alone would represent a back-end that most teams would love to have (Bieksa, Dan Hamhuis, Keith Ballard, Alex Edler, Andrew Alberts and Lee Sweatt)." not only did they survive they won the president's trophy. and Vancouver MGMT picked up Erhoff for 2 bags of used pucks.................... Edmonton does need a change upstairs, they should be fired just for picking up Eager and Hordichuck - mick Sun, 08 Jan 2012 18:43:56 +0100 http://hockey.dobbersports.com/index.php/jeff-angus/4268-15-prime-cuts-gallagher-eberle-schenn-and-more#comment-18752 Agree with your list and order. I'd also have Stepan ahead of Hodgson and MDZ would be right after Myers. - Andrew K Sun, 08 Jan 2012 18:23:00 +0100 http://hockey.dobbersports.com/index.php/jeff-angus/4268-15-prime-cuts-gallagher-eberle-schenn-and-more#comment-18750 Great work Steve! It's posts like that, intelligent and thought-provoking that keep people coming back . . . That and great articles like 15 Points, um, I mean 15 Prime Cuts! Angus, my favourite article on DH by far! - lcbtd Sun, 08 Jan 2012 17:55:04 +0100 http://hockey.dobbersports.com/index.php/jeff-angus/4268-15-prime-cuts-gallagher-eberle-schenn-and-more#comment-18747 I emphatically disagree with you regarding the Oilers front office. They've done a ton to change the culture in Edmonton from top to bottom and have made the franchise much healthier for the long term. I don't see what anyone else is doing differently to solve this thing. The Oilers are well on their way to competing and have been ravaged by injuries losing 139 man games across 13 players, six of whom are defensemen. I don't care how deep you are, you aren't surviving the loss of six defensemen. No Barker and Sutton are not long term solutions but they are understandable. Sutton sucks but he plays his role reasonably enough. Barker's skillset seems to be what the Oilers are missing as a left-handed puckmover. I know he sucks too but as a former third overall pick you can understand his signing. Kick the tires on a guy with huge pedigree to see what shakes out. Both are low risk signings for a team that wasn't realistically going for the Cup this year anyhow. And look at the defense market this summer. Who were they gonna get? The big free agents were Ehrhoff, Kaberle, Wisniewski and Hamrlik. I'm going to assume Ehrhoff and Hamrlik were only considering contenders. Kaberle was only picking teams in the East. Wisniewski is a player I am personally not a fan of and have no disappointment the Oilers didn't choose to overpay him. Then there's the trade market. Regher, Liles and Burns were all in house options. Campbell is still vastly overpaid. The price for Franson was eating Lombardi's contract. That leaves lesser free agents like Montador, Hejda, I. White, C. White, Campoli and Jovo. Is Edmonton outbidding for Jovo? Can they compete with San Jose, Detroit, or Chicago for Montador or the Whites? Is Campoli a real solution? Are they outbidding for Hejda? You can criticize them for not making it happen with at least one of these guys? Yeah for sure but realistically they are probably only getting one and most would be just as big of bandaids as Sutton or Barker and we do not know what the mindset of these players was. The Hemsky situation may not be all it appears to be. Why can't he be a part of the solution? Do we know what the specific offers for him have been over the years? Do we know what the internal conversations have been between player and organization regarding an extention? If they move him does that not make them just as lacking for depth up front as they are on D? I just don't see what a new GM is doing over what the Oilers have done. Tambo started in the summer of 2008 so this is year four of the rebuild. How long did the Pittsburgh GM get? How long did the Washington GM get? It takes time to change the culture of a franchise that was bare bones when Tambo took over. You can rip Lowe for his job as GM but as President he has helped establish a strong competitive team in the AHL which will help the youngsters learn to win as they come through the system. Also head scout Stu MacGregor has been fantastic and completely changed the way Edmonton evaluates youngsters. Is he a part of this house cleaning? I just think that calling for a house cleaning is a simple solution and really you are just kicking this franchise when it is down. Where was this talk before all the injuries? I know this is a rant and it's defensive in nature but I see a lot of people losing faith and jumping off the bandwagon just as quick as they jumped on it. I know you have had your criticisms of the Oilers franchise for a couple of years now but front office is adapting and you'll note they addressed a lot of issues regarding not having enough veteran talent on the main roster. - steve laidlaw Sun, 08 Jan 2012 11:32:25 +0100 http://hockey.dobbersports.com/index.php/jeff-angus/4268-15-prime-cuts-gallagher-eberle-schenn-and-more#comment-18746 I'm glad to hear good news about Justin Schultz....picked him up for $1 at the end of my first keeper league auction draft in September and threw him on the farm. Biggest improvement of Angus' 15 -- the title. I cringed every time I read "15 Points to Consider". The new title is perfect, as is the news that this will now be a weekly column. Can't wait for next week! - Nigel Sun, 08 Jan 2012 10:13:47 +0100 http://hockey.dobbersports.com/index.php/jeff-angus/4268-15-prime-cuts-gallagher-eberle-schenn-and-more#comment-18745 Letestu is out with a broken hand. The injuries extends to ex-Pens as well apparently. Dusting Jeffrey is supposedly getting close. Pens could really use him, especially if he can come back anywhere near last year's form. - netwolf Sun, 08 Jan 2012 10:09:44 +0100