Comments for December 13, 2011 at http://hockey.dobbersports.com , comment 1 to 20 out of 20 comments http://hockey.dobbersports.com Sat, 25 May 2013 13:13:35 +0100 FeedCreator 1.7.3 http://hockey.dobbersports.com/index.php/other-features-mainmenu-89/archived-ramblings/4197-december-13-2011#comment-18351 dobber's website a ladder of text greets my eyes and my brain - Repent Tokyo Tue, 13 Dec 2011 19:54:34 +0100 http://hockey.dobbersports.com/index.php/other-features-mainmenu-89/archived-ramblings/4197-december-13-2011#comment-18350 Btw pengwin7 - lose the ego dude - Anthony Furino Tue, 13 Dec 2011 18:46:26 +0100 http://hockey.dobbersports.com/index.php/other-features-mainmenu-89/archived-ramblings/4197-december-13-2011#comment-18349 I almost madethe,same mistake as pengwin7 in calling out dobber on the cheechoo/henrique comparison but then I re-read the comparison and the key word he used was SITUATION so theres really nothing wrong with it - Anthony Furino Tue, 13 Dec 2011 18:39:16 +0100 http://hockey.dobbersports.com/index.php/other-features-mainmenu-89/archived-ramblings/4197-december-13-2011#comment-18347 Yes I had typed in NO but I forgot that I owned him in one league that is further down the "care" ladder for me. So simple answer - yes. You told me to get real, which put an exclamation mark on how certain you are that my saying he could get 70 was wrong. I would only list five or six d-men in this league who can get 70. Carlson is one of them. Completely fair statement and I've said it 100 times. - Dobber Tue, 13 Dec 2011 12:46:52 +0100 http://hockey.dobbersports.com/index.php/other-features-mainmenu-89/archived-ramblings/4197-december-13-2011#comment-18344 Great sell high. His stock will plummet to normalcy when Zajac returns. - Rusty Pickles Tue, 13 Dec 2011 09:09:43 +0100 http://hockey.dobbersports.com/index.php/other-features-mainmenu-89/archived-ramblings/4197-december-13-2011#comment-18341 Dobber, you make a good point about Henrique and it's probably a good idea to temper short-term expectations. You say he has a 65-point upside and I said a year-and-a-half ago that his upside was 70. After last night's three-point effort, he's on pace to score 69 points, something that is only possible by playing with Parise and Kovalchuk. He might still get that, but Parise (61-point pace) and Kovalchuk (60-point pace) should both pick it up and surpass Henrique. - Ryan Van Horne Tue, 13 Dec 2011 08:40:43 +0100 http://hockey.dobbersports.com/index.php/other-features-mainmenu-89/archived-ramblings/4197-december-13-2011#comment-18340 Dobbs - I love how fired up you got over my comment. 1. I don't see the word "could" in there in your three sentences about Green/Carlson. Could John Carlson score 70+ points? Uh, yes... of course. Feel better? 2. I'm not saying anything is 100% impossible. (see Item #1, above) I didn't write that. Don't infer it. 3. [b]I[/b] would be shocked if John Carlson ever scores 70+ points. Look at the number of NHL defensemen that have scored 70+ over the last ten years. It is a very short list of ELITE d-men. And when Green did it, EVERY Capital (OV, Backstrom, Semin, etc.) they were ALL clicking. 4. If Dobber says "I wouldn't be shocked", that's fine... that's your opinion. My opinion is that a reasonable hockey fan [u][b]should[/b][/u] be shocked. These are just opinions. Great job dodging the only question I had though. [b]Do you own him in any of your keeper leagues?[/b] (Yes or No - simple question) ps. You get no rope. - Pengwin7 Tue, 13 Dec 2011 08:37:58 +0100 http://hockey.dobbersports.com/index.php/other-features-mainmenu-89/archived-ramblings/4197-december-13-2011#comment-18339 If I owned Green, I'd be really concerned. There's really not room for 2 60 point dmen on a team, and Carlson has been in the rearview mirror for long enough that it shouldn't surprise anyone. The guys putting up mad numbers under Hunter. He had 8 shots a few games ago. Trade value, Green is still above Carlson, but that could change within a Month. - duducks Tue, 13 Dec 2011 08:35:03 +0100 http://hockey.dobbersports.com/index.php/other-features-mainmenu-89/archived-ramblings/4197-december-13-2011#comment-18338 Answered some comments in the ramblings Great observation David and letnry re: Oates Pengwin, if I ever say "could" then I would appreciate some rope. Because if you say that's wrong, then what you are saying is that it is 100% impossible. That's just not the case. Also, I've made the Carlson-Green reference many times in the past - is this news to you that I feel this way? I'm talking about the Prospects Report, and several columns here. - Dobber Tue, 13 Dec 2011 08:04:27 +0100 http://hockey.dobbersports.com/index.php/other-features-mainmenu-89/archived-ramblings/4197-december-13-2011#comment-18337 whoops, just saw David make that same mention. - letnry Tue, 13 Dec 2011 06:53:10 +0100 http://hockey.dobbersports.com/index.php/other-features-mainmenu-89/archived-ramblings/4197-december-13-2011#comment-18336 With Foster, lets not forget the Adam Oates connection. Oates was an assistant coach running the powerplay in Tampa Bay when Foster had his 8 goal, 42 point, and 26 PPP season. With Oates now running the powerplay in New Jersey, and his history with Foster, there is potential to see a nice boost in production. Something worth keeping on eye on at least. - letnry Tue, 13 Dec 2011 06:52:03 +0100 http://hockey.dobbersports.com/index.php/other-features-mainmenu-89/archived-ramblings/4197-december-13-2011#comment-18333 Anthony, thanks for bringing that up. As I often, I followed my own advice and picked up Henrique a few weeks after I wrote this article. http://www.dobberhockey.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=2785:henrique-fills-a-new-jersey-need&catid=45:stumcdonald&Itemid=117 I'm glad I did and while I did think that Henrique would eventually score, I am only surprised by how quickly he has fit in. He was an underrated player on those Spitfire teams and is a true Devil. He should be there for a long time and while his production is helped by his linemates, he'll continue to get prime ice-time and be a good producer for the Devils. - Ryan Van Horne Tue, 13 Dec 2011 06:02:57 +0100 http://hockey.dobbersports.com/index.php/other-features-mainmenu-89/archived-ramblings/4197-december-13-2011#comment-18332 Filatov is done in the NHL, at least until a team is desperate enought to beat the KHL money. The Sens may own his rights, but they'll never be willing to outpay any KHL team going forward. The article sounds complimentary until Murray complains about his strength and competitiveness. Good lord I'm glad the Leafs grabbed Schenn.... - Jeremy Wark Tue, 13 Dec 2011 05:32:28 +0100 http://hockey.dobbersports.com/index.php/other-features-mainmenu-89/archived-ramblings/4197-december-13-2011#comment-18331 Not sure I love the cheechoo and henrique comparison. But I'm not here to argue with dobber bc he knows too much. Just watching this kid he is amazing. I actually wouldn't be shocked if they keep parise and him together and move kovy and zajac to another line. Henrique has insane hockey sense and he and parise's connection especially on the penalty kill is insane. He is a smart player. I agree he needs the chance to play and not be buried so we will see what happens. An foster I'm most likely agreeing with you. Not sure what impact he will have but they brought him in bc of his right handed shot to play opposite kovy on the pp. Atleast that's what was understood from lous comments. Now that could be on the second pp unit for all we know but he has every chance to make an impact. Probably won't but we can hope as the devils pp is terrible. Also when he was in tb and put up like 40 points Oates was one of the coaches and now he's in nj so that is a plus and probably why they brought him in. - david Tue, 13 Dec 2011 04:46:47 +0100 http://hockey.dobbersports.com/index.php/other-features-mainmenu-89/archived-ramblings/4197-december-13-2011#comment-18330 Hockey Canada made its first of two cuts this morning: Matt Dumba (D, Red Deer Rebels, 2012 Draft) Mark McNail (F, Prince Albert Raiders, Chicago Blackhawks) Jerome Gauthier-Leduc (D, Rimouski, Buffalo Sabres) Brendan Kichton (D, Spokane Chiefs, New York Islanders) Michael Ferland (F, Brandon Wheat Kings, Calgary Flames) Zach Phillips (F, Saint John Sea Dog, Minnesota Wild) Max Reinhart (F, Kootenay, Calgary Flames) The final cuts come tomorrow (Wednesday). Quinton Howden was also injured during last night's red and white game on a late hit by Tampa Bay''s Brett Connolly. Howden was one of only 4 returnees to Team Canada. - Dean Youngblood Tue, 13 Dec 2011 04:41:48 +0100 http://hockey.dobbersports.com/index.php/other-features-mainmenu-89/archived-ramblings/4197-december-13-2011#comment-18329 [i]John Carlson is the new Mike Green now. Under Hunter, I wouldn’t be shocked if he was a 70-plus guy now.[/i] True or False - you own him in your keeper(s)? - Pengwin7 Tue, 13 Dec 2011 04:28:38 +0100 http://hockey.dobbersports.com/index.php/other-features-mainmenu-89/archived-ramblings/4197-december-13-2011#comment-18328 That is a good example of why a fight is sometimes inevitable. Q. How does that confrontation develop without a fight taking place? A. Stick work, stick work and more stick work. Without a fight being possible, Downie would eventually decapitate that guy with his stick. Maybe he would just suck it up for this game. But down the road, he and many others would likely take a two handed chop to someone for repeated cross checks and continued aggravation. - shaun b Tue, 13 Dec 2011 01:02:30 +0100 http://hockey.dobbersports.com/index.php/other-features-mainmenu-89/archived-ramblings/4197-december-13-2011#comment-18327 Good call on Foster. He will be non relevant. All he has is a big shot. Which he doesn't use as much as he should. He is a nightmare in his own zone. There is a reason why he was benched in Anaheim. Because he's terrible. - Mr Sausage Mon, 12 Dec 2011 20:32:08 +0100 http://hockey.dobbersports.com/index.php/other-features-mainmenu-89/archived-ramblings/4197-december-13-2011#comment-18326 Correction: henrique WAS a diamond in the rough ;) kudos to the name of the writer who wrote that henrique article I mentioned in previous comment - Anthony Furino Mon, 12 Dec 2011 19:33:37 +0100 http://hockey.dobbersports.com/index.php/other-features-mainmenu-89/archived-ramblings/4197-december-13-2011#comment-18325 Henrique is a diamond in the rough!! So glad I picked him up after readng that article written abt him by one of your writers almost two yrs ago... Seriously henrique is a five star player I love watching him play his style of play is very similar to sidney crosbys style of play... all around player with all the tools who almost never makes mistakes!.. Theres nothing he CANT do... Ive read that lots of devils fans are already buying jerseys with henriques name on the back... Dude is for real - Anthony Furino Mon, 12 Dec 2011 19:30:44 +0100