Comments for Handicapping Current Tandems at http://hockey.dobbersports.com , comment 1 to 6 out of 6 comments http://hockey.dobbersports.com Tue, 18 Jun 2013 21:33:12 +0100 FeedCreator 1.7.3 http://hockey.dobbersports.com/index.php/justin-goldman/4056-handicapping-current-tandems#comment-17338 How do you see the Khabibulin-Dubnyk duo playing out? My own opinion would be to try to sell high on Khabibulin until his back flares up again, but Khabibulin seems to have a season when he stays healthy for most of the games every now and then. Do you think it's better just to take thet stats and go for someone else later? - Louis-Alexandre Jalbert Fri, 28 Oct 2011 03:21:54 +0100 http://hockey.dobbersports.com/index.php/justin-goldman/4056-handicapping-current-tandems#comment-17329 I did mean to say INFLUENCE instead of DICTATE, for sure. My mistake! I understand your comments and I get what you are saying. You clearly have a keen mind for fantasy hockey. But anyone can post stats. It's very easy to find those numbers, to look at them and to draw conclusions from them. I have always left that sort of thing for you guys to do. This is Dobber Nation - you're all the smartest poolies in the world. I am not going to waste valuable space and your valuable time by doing "fun with numbers" research that you can do on your own very easily. That is not why I'm here. I am here to give my insights, advice and opinions on what I see with my trained eye. The evaluations I provide are not found elsewhere. This always seems to come up once or twice a year, and I understand why some people on here find it to be odd how I don't bring up past stats to help reinforce some of my thoughts. But I've always been this way. I try to bring sides and angles you don't find elsewhere so you have more tools to work with. Bringing up stats that you can find anywhere is not my thing. I will use stats where I see fit, but that is not very often. Hopefully you understand! - Justin Goldman Thu, 27 Oct 2011 17:08:47 +0100 http://hockey.dobbersports.com/index.php/justin-goldman/4056-handicapping-current-tandems#comment-17328 "stats have little to no bearing on what he's going through this year, and what might happen in November and December." perhaps. but stats are the only hard evidence we have on which to base conclusions about future performance. hardly a perfect situation, but it is, at least, a scientific approach. "I think there will be a lot of frustrating losses this year." i agree with you. however, saying as much does not lead us to any new ground on which to base conclusions. all losses are frustrating. especially if you are an elite talent playing for a team with great expectations. if you think that the canucks will struggle this season, much like the black hawks last season, and thus, less than stellar team performance will result in luongo having a down season along with the rest of the canucks...then that would make good sense. "He has never been under this much pressure before, he has never been challenged by this type of backup talent before, and he's never had to deal with this type of ire from the fans before." this is conjecture. no matter the out-come of this season, statements like the above can never be proven false. or true. for all we know, luongo spends all his thinking time on having imaginary arguments with bill o'reilly, or calculating the effect of falling sub-prime rates on his real estate investments. " Can you find statistical evidence of Luongo playing well in the type of situation he is in right now? Nope. Because it has never happened." it is ok to infer that luongo feels some kind of unique pressure from the current situation. unfortunately, again, no matter the out-come, one can never reach a solid conclusion as to the veracity of an argument based on conjecture. "Atmosphere dictates performance in the world of goaltending." atmosphere DOES NOT dictate performance. atmosphere influences performance. to what degree? neither you, nor i, nor anyone can say, precisely. i, however, can show, precisely, how much luongo has, historically, improved his performance as the season progresses. "I've been trying to stress that on here for four years." indeed. - gregory churchill Thu, 27 Oct 2011 14:35:29 +0100 http://hockey.dobbersports.com/index.php/justin-goldman/4056-handicapping-current-tandems#comment-17327 Here's my calculation: I don't like Luongo as a fantasy goalie. I know what the stats say in the past. I look at his Yahoo! Sports page every day he plays. Those stats have little to no bearing on what he's going through this year, and what might happen in November and December. If you want to project his future by what the stats show in the past, go for it. Those numbers are easy to research, and easy to evaluate. I never said he was no longer an elite talent, either. I said I wouldn't personally touch him with a 10-foot pole because I think there will be a lot of frustrating losses this year. That's my opinion. I'd rather own another Top-10 guy. That's why I posted it. He has never been under this much pressure before, he has never been challenged by this type of backup talent before, and he's never had to deal with this type of ire from the fans before. Can you find statistical evidence of Luongo playing well in the type of situation he is in right now? Nope. Because it has never happened. Atmosphere dictates performance in the world of goaltending. I've been trying to stress that on here for four years. - Justin Goldman Thu, 27 Oct 2011 12:18:57 +0100 http://hockey.dobbersports.com/index.php/justin-goldman/4056-handicapping-current-tandems#comment-17325 spitball makes a good point. - David Thu, 27 Oct 2011 11:22:01 +0100 http://hockey.dobbersports.com/index.php/justin-goldman/4056-handicapping-current-tandems#comment-17324 the five year record of the guy you wouldn't touch... NHL 76 2 10 4490 171 3 5 2.28 47 22 6 1998 0.921 NHL 73 3 4 4233 168 3 6 2.38 35 29 9 1861 0.917 NHL 54 1 4 3181 124 5 9 2.34 33 13 7 1418 0.920 NHL 68 0 0 3899 167 4 4 2.57 40 22 4 1748 0.913 NHL 60 3 2 3590 126 3 4 2.11 38 15 7 1627 0.928 if you have some solid evidence to share that indicates luongo is no longer an elite talent, please bring it to the article. luo's octobers in van. one good, the rest mediocre to poor. enough evidence for most poolies to expect luongo to improve his performance going forward. do you have any solid calculations to claim otherwise? 2010 October 7 2 3 2 20 214 194 .907 2.93 2009 October 12 6 6 0 31 315 284 .902 2.79 2008 October 10 6 4 0 29 295 266 .902 2.98 2007 October 11 4 7 0 30 310 280 .903 2.91 2006 October 12 7 4 1 26 336 310 .923 2.14 i am not a luongo fan. i do own him in some fantasy leagues, and i wouldn't hesitate to trade for him in the others. i do expect that if you are posting an article in which you portend to handicapping, that 'some' math will be used to support your conclusions. unless you were expecting your claims to be taken on blind faith... spitball - gregory churchill Thu, 27 Oct 2011 10:35:41 +0100