Comments for Power Hungry at http://hockey.dobbersports.com , comment 1 to 10 out of 10 comments http://hockey.dobbersports.com Fri, 24 May 2013 19:48:31 +0100 FeedCreator 1.7.3 http://hockey.dobbersports.com/index.php/russ-miller/3897-power-hungry#comment-15929 Nav, I took my data from Yahoo. I found it very easy to convert to a spreadsheet, then I added formulas. For example, Yahoo provided PPG and PPA, so I did a basic calculation to add in PPP. Next, I looked at PP%, which shows what percentage his PPP were of his total points. PP/G is the PPP scored per game (fairly obvious). 82P is the PPP/game normalized to an 82 game output, showing what the totals would be if the skater played a full season. I did this same calculation for SHP and special teams points, but PPP seemed to produce the most interesting data. - Tim Lucarelli Fri, 19 Aug 2011 08:29:45 +0100 http://hockey.dobbersports.com/index.php/russ-miller/3897-power-hungry#comment-15924 Tim where did you get this info from. I was checking the frozen pool stats and was unable to see any ppp info. I am curious as I am in a league where PPP's play a major role. - nav Thu, 18 Aug 2011 20:56:36 +0100 http://hockey.dobbersports.com/index.php/russ-miller/3897-power-hungry#comment-15921 Solid feedback all the way around. I'll have to re-run my numbers with TOI. Very solid suggestion. - Tim Lucarelli Thu, 18 Aug 2011 12:37:57 +0100 http://hockey.dobbersports.com/index.php/russ-miller/3897-power-hungry#comment-15906 Its important to note that there serious intangible factors for PP time. Depends on the player's assets and how it mixes with the PP unit. Some players just arent suited for the top PP untit. So its not realistic to hope for top PP time for them. - DuklaNation Thu, 18 Aug 2011 06:28:02 +0100 http://hockey.dobbersports.com/index.php/russ-miller/3897-power-hungry#comment-15904 It would be interesting to see how these numbers break down by TOI for PP. That is, who was most effective with their time on the PP. Who got the most points with the least time. One could look at players like that and think, well perhaps if their PP time goes up, their point totals will in a big way. - Ryan Lenethen Thu, 18 Aug 2011 04:42:53 +0100 http://hockey.dobbersports.com/index.php/russ-miller/3897-power-hungry#comment-15903 There's another way to look at this data. If guys like Marchand, who can score 41 pts with little to no pp time, what can they do if they get it? - Chad Burly Thu, 18 Aug 2011 02:35:01 +0100 http://hockey.dobbersports.com/index.php/russ-miller/3897-power-hungry#comment-15900 Alain, you hit the nail on the head my man. Many times an increase in PPP leads to a decrease in plus/minus. It doesn't always happen, but it is a concern. Plus/minus is a little tougher to predict though as one guy can be +10 one year and -14 the next. Whenever in doubt, follow your gut. If you think a guys +/- is going to kill you, move on to another player. Always follow your instinct and think for yourself. What I'm saying may make sense for person A but not for person B. As long as you're taking the time to consider what youre reading (and not just acting because someone told you to), you should be fine. - Tim Lucarelli Wed, 17 Aug 2011 19:47:28 +0100 http://hockey.dobbersports.com/index.php/russ-miller/3897-power-hungry#comment-15899 Hey Shoeless, I look at Dobber's roto invitational leagues as points only leagues, which also include PPP, but I will be the first to admit I don't play too many of those. I prefer a wide range of scoring categories, so my understanding may be off base there. Regardless, my main point was that PPP is a valuable stat that is rarely analyzed in depth. I will work on the language moving forward. Apologies for any confusion and thanks for bringing it to my attention. - Tim Lucarelli Wed, 17 Aug 2011 19:34:39 +0100 http://hockey.dobbersports.com/index.php/russ-miller/3897-power-hungry#comment-15898 But don't forget that there's no +/- awarded for PPP. So if the league rewards +/-, the discrepancy between regular and powerplay points might not be as wide - Alain Dube Wed, 17 Aug 2011 19:33:29 +0100 http://hockey.dobbersports.com/index.php/russ-miller/3897-power-hungry#comment-15897 Tim - I noticed this in another article of yours as well - not sure about your definition of 'points only' leagues. As I understand it, points only is G, A, W, SO with W and SO have some multiplier factor - often 2x for W and 3X for SO. Again, only my understanding that a points league includes other peripherals commonly converted to some kind of fantasy point value. Not that it really impacts on the message in your articles, but I was curious. - Shoeless Wed, 17 Aug 2011 19:04:26 +0100