Comments for Earmarked for Success (West 2011): Part Two at http://hockey.dobbersports.com , comment 1 to 15 out of 15 comments http://hockey.dobbersports.com Tue, 18 Jun 2013 02:05:50 +0100 FeedCreator 1.7.3 http://hockey.dobbersports.com/index.php/columnistsarticles-mainmenu-77/amato/3838-earmarked-for-success-west-2011-part-two#comment-15386 i have ott and benn, follow them a bit. ott's the type of tweener that coaches like to have, a guy that can do several things well despite not being able to do one thing great (other than agitate)... hence he sifts between 2nd and 3rd line, is on 2nd PP, 1st PK..... Penguin, in the last 10 games you noted, my guess is those draws were on the PK and as the 3rd line C.... brich and ribs had their share of draws as top 6 Cmen... now that brich is gone, my guess is that dallas will want benn there because as has been pointe dout, he has more play-making and goal scoring ability, moreso than ott. this isn't a dig on ott, i like him... but just mainly as a 3rd liner, top pk man who can fill in for a period of time as a top 6 guy, but not a "full-time" top 6 guy. - Jaxx Wed, 20 Jul 2011 15:54:58 +0100 http://hockey.dobbersports.com/index.php/columnistsarticles-mainmenu-77/amato/3838-earmarked-for-success-west-2011-part-two#comment-15370 ott takes most all defensive zone face-offs and is number one on the penalty kill... also, even if he plays the wing he can take important face-offs... just think benn will be given a chance to work on his face-offs as the number 2 centre. ott could very well be his lw and insurance for important face-offs in the game. ott's game is in the corners and banging bodies - not puck possession and distribution. he could very well end up top 6 by default in dallas, just can't see it at centre. - tGr Wed, 20 Jul 2011 06:49:01 +0100 http://hockey.dobbersports.com/index.php/columnistsarticles-mainmenu-77/amato/3838-earmarked-for-success-west-2011-part-two#comment-15365 Can mods edit my post to change the smiley faces into 8.) Supposed to be the number 8... LOL. - Pengwin7 Wed, 20 Jul 2011 05:25:14 +0100 http://hockey.dobbersports.com/index.php/columnistsarticles-mainmenu-77/amato/3838-earmarked-for-success-west-2011-part-two#comment-15364 Great Note on Fiddler. He was definitely signed to be C3. He's excellent on the dot and the PK. Using Frozen Pools, sort by Steve Ott's last 10 games of line combos in 2010-2011: 41.36V;10 MORROW,BRENDEN - 29 OTT,STEVE - 63 RIBEIRO,MIKE 17.41V;21 ERIKSSON,LOUI - 29 OTT,STEVE - 91 RICHARDS,BRAD *Crawford was giving him top 6 minutes on BOTH lines down the stretch. To a typical eye, somebody might look at these lines and say "Oh, Ott was playing [i]wing[/i] on the top two lines". IDK, was he? Cycle through the last 10 games of Dallas game logs and jot down the number of face-offs everybody was taking. Face-offs Game #73 vs ANA: Ott(20), B.Rich(19), Ribs(11), Benn(0) Game #74 vs NAS: Ott(15), B.Rich(16), Ribs(20), Benn(1) Game #75 vs PHX: Ott(15), B.Rich (9), Ribs(19), Benn(4) Game #76 vs SJ: Ott(17), B.Rich(15), Ribs(11), Benn(1) Game #77 vs LA: Ott(19), B.Rich(17), Ribs(11), Benn(1) Game #78 vs ANA: Ott(22), B.Rich (8), Ribs(15), Benn(2) Game #79 vs CBJ: Ott(19), B.Rich (6), Ribs (5), Benn(1) (***WOW***) Game #80 vs COL: Ott(20), B.Rich(13), Ribs (8), Benn(1) Game #81 vs COL: Ott(13), B.Rich (9), Ribs(10), Benn(0) Game #82 vs MIN: Ott(12), B.Rich(17), Ribs (5), Benn(0) Maybe the new Dallas coach tries something different... but Ott was definitely seen as the #1 face-off guy down the stretch. If he plays top 6, he'd be wasted at any position other than C. - Pengwin7 Wed, 20 Jul 2011 05:23:45 +0100 http://hockey.dobbersports.com/index.php/columnistsarticles-mainmenu-77/amato/3838-earmarked-for-success-west-2011-part-two#comment-15358 [b]RE: Ott[/b] I think you're onto something Pengwin regarding the FW%, but the problem for me is his overall style of play. C's tend to play more of a puck possession/controlling the play type of game, but I don't know if Ott is that type of a finesse player. Benn IMO is. Everytime he has puck possession, he seems to do something with the puck to generate some sort of offense. If Ott ends up playing C, I think he ends up in a role much like what Fiddler did with the Coyotes last season as a third-line FW specialist, but then again that's probably why they brought in Fiddler in the first place, which kinda leaves Ott only winger eligible really... - Ryan Ma Tue, 19 Jul 2011 20:34:36 +0100 http://hockey.dobbersports.com/index.php/columnistsarticles-mainmenu-77/amato/3838-earmarked-for-success-west-2011-part-two#comment-15352 time will tell, and lines are fluid through the season but, when richards went down for 10 games last year, -morrow stayed with ribeiro and ott joined them. -benn played with eriksson. i think ryder will be given a spot alongside ribeiro as they have a history playing together from their days in montreal. - tGr Tue, 19 Jul 2011 10:20:01 +0100 http://hockey.dobbersports.com/index.php/columnistsarticles-mainmenu-77/amato/3838-earmarked-for-success-west-2011-part-two#comment-15351 I sure hope he plays with Eriksson...it only makes sense, imo, that they try the two together. Ribs and Morrow won't be around forever and Benn and Eriksson are the future top line for them. - SeaDawg Tue, 19 Jul 2011 10:10:17 +0100 http://hockey.dobbersports.com/index.php/columnistsarticles-mainmenu-77/amato/3838-earmarked-for-success-west-2011-part-two#comment-15350 If Ott plays centre it will be on the third line and on the penalty kill. Top line will be: Morrow - Ribeiro - Ryder Benn will play with Eriksson on the second line - maybe with Ott on the left side. Dallas wants Benn to replace Richards as the team's number one centre and they will give him the opportunity to see if he can handle the job. - tGr Tue, 19 Jul 2011 10:03:11 +0100 http://hockey.dobbersports.com/index.php/columnistsarticles-mainmenu-77/amato/3838-earmarked-for-success-west-2011-part-two#comment-15348 Right now, I have the opinion that Ott gets a spot as the line #2 center. Ott took 1138 faceoffs last year, winning them at a rate of 56.6%. Benn took 195 faceoffs last year, winning them at a rate of 43.3%. Many people are overlooking the fact that Ott is now a center. He took 172 faceoffs in 2008-2009. Then took 352 faceoffs in 2009-2010. (@ 56.8%) And now 1138 faceoffs in 2010-2011. (@ 56.6%) I tend to believe that if a coach has a chance to bring a young player along as a winger, he'll try that first... less defensive responsibility. Benn-Ott-Ryder - Pengwin7 Tue, 19 Jul 2011 09:14:34 +0100 http://hockey.dobbersports.com/index.php/columnistsarticles-mainmenu-77/amato/3838-earmarked-for-success-west-2011-part-two#comment-15347 The problem with Hishon, as Dobber (or maybe it was Angus) mentioned in the ramblings today, is that he is still suffering post-concussion symptoms. Even before this news, I personally did not think he'd be ready for the NHL yet, but with that news I think the chances of him playing in the NHL next year are very, very low. Even long-term I'm not convinced Hishon is a top sixer. I see him more as a 3rd line, penalty killer-type with a good offensive instinct to chip in with some secondary scoring. I just don't see him as a solid top 6er. - SeaDawg Tue, 19 Jul 2011 07:27:43 +0100 http://hockey.dobbersports.com/index.php/columnistsarticles-mainmenu-77/amato/3838-earmarked-for-success-west-2011-part-two#comment-15344 [b]RE: Jones[/b] Completely agree SeaDawg! It's completely a toss up, which kinda shows just how unpredictable the situation in COL is. The problem with those three (Yip, Galiardi, and Jones) is their inconsistency. You'll see 2-3 maybe even 4-5 games where they go point-per-game when lining up alongside Stastny or Duchene, then go ice-cold with goose eggs in the next 3-4. They lose their spot and their fantasy value is shot. It becomes a roulette situation where everyone just has a turn at the wheel, so the overall production is pretty much leveled off. I honestly think Hishon could come in, play a consistent game and end up securing a top-six spot kinda how Wolski did back in the 2009 season, and end up having a great rookie campaign. But then again the same could happen to Yip, Jones, or Galiardi as well. - Ryan Ma Tue, 19 Jul 2011 07:00:43 +0100 http://hockey.dobbersports.com/index.php/columnistsarticles-mainmenu-77/amato/3838-earmarked-for-success-west-2011-part-two#comment-15343 [b]RE: Landeskog[/b] Definitely I think he's probably the most NHL ready in terms of the 2011 draft class. The downside for me is he's drawn a lot of comparisons to Mike Richards in terms of style of play. Those physical bang em up players tend to bloom a little bit later than true finesse players like Hall, Kane, Crosby, Toews, Malkin... During his rookie season Richards notched 34 points, so I kinda expect something similar for Landeskog. He's able to dominate young smaller junior players, but playing against men there's going to be a tougher adjustment period, which is why I kinda gave the proven players like Galiardi, Yip, Jones a leg up because they'll probably have better one-year fantasy production than Landeskog. Great long-term potential, but I'd be wary in one-year leagues. - Ryan Ma Tue, 19 Jul 2011 06:45:53 +0100 http://hockey.dobbersports.com/index.php/columnistsarticles-mainmenu-77/amato/3838-earmarked-for-success-west-2011-part-two#comment-15341 Nice article once again, Ma. I tend to agree with most of it, but I think David Jones has a top 6 spot to lose for Colorado. I think he is a bit underrated, but he has a great scoring touch and could be a 30 goal threat if he lines up with either Duchene or Stastny. - SeaDawg Tue, 19 Jul 2011 05:56:07 +0100 http://hockey.dobbersports.com/index.php/columnistsarticles-mainmenu-77/amato/3838-earmarked-for-success-west-2011-part-two#comment-15337 i would say Landeskog, of all the 2011 draftees, is the one guy you could point to as being a lock for the NHL. - ultrawhiteness Tue, 19 Jul 2011 04:05:04 +0100 http://hockey.dobbersports.com/index.php/columnistsarticles-mainmenu-77/amato/3838-earmarked-for-success-west-2011-part-two#comment-15336 Landeskog is an interesting case. I think Kitchener renounced his rights and he's too young for AHL so doesnt that mean he's guaranteed an NHL spot? - DuklaNation Tue, 19 Jul 2011 03:42:19 +0100