Comments for Earmarked for Success (West 2011): Part One at http://hockey.dobbersports.com , comment 1 to 14 out of 14 comments http://hockey.dobbersports.com Sun, 19 May 2013 08:57:43 +0100 FeedCreator 1.7.3 http://hockey.dobbersports.com/index.php/columnistsarticles-mainmenu-77/amato/3820-earmarked-for-success-west-2011-part-one#comment-15340 I have it on pretty good authority that Chicago's top three lines should settle out like this: Brunette, Toews, Kane Frolik, Sharp, Hossa Stalberg, Bolland, Olesz Pretty scary top three lines, especially considering that they can throw on the likes of Carcillo, Bickell, and Mayers as a 4th line or as subs on the 3rd should Stalberg or Olesz falter. In Frolik and Olesz, the Hawks got some promising talent that did not pan out in FLA due to a bad situation, but both of these guys could flourish in Chi-town. - Colts Tue, 19 Jul 2011 05:07:20 +0100 http://hockey.dobbersports.com/index.php/columnistsarticles-mainmenu-77/amato/3820-earmarked-for-success-west-2011-part-one#comment-15241 [b]RE: Flames age[/b] The problem is that you can always bend stats to make it say what you want... the thing that you have to consider is that the guys you mentioned (Bouma, Nemisz, Brodie) have all played 16, 6, and 3 games respectively. You average them out with Jokinen, Iggy, Tanguay and of course you have an average age of 28... But who's going to be the bulk of the offence, it's the old guys, and Bouma, Nemisz, Brodie are just roster fillers on the 4th line and unable to develop properly... What a lot of people are saying is that they don't develop their youngsters properly because they never give them a chance. They're more willing to sign "over the hill" veterans like Jokinen, Tanguay than to give their young kids like Backlund, Nemisz, or Howse a more offensive scoring role to develop into proper scoring threats. What I'm saying is that you can only utilize vets to keep your team afloat for so long before you have to completely rebuild like the Oilers have. Giving just 10-12 minutes a game to your top prospects won't move them any further on the development curve. - Ryan Ma Thu, 14 Jul 2011 05:10:19 +0100 http://hockey.dobbersports.com/index.php/columnistsarticles-mainmenu-77/amato/3820-earmarked-for-success-west-2011-part-one#comment-15240 [b]RE: Etem[/b] I agree with you Pierre that he could be a serious dark horse candidate, the problem is it completely hinges on Selanne retiring and him being able to beat out Beleskey and McMillian... Both kinda have a leg up on Etem at the moment. Both Beleskey and McMillian have seen some time on a line with Perry and Getzlaf and generally history wins out over potential. - Ryan Ma Thu, 14 Jul 2011 05:02:24 +0100 http://hockey.dobbersports.com/index.php/columnistsarticles-mainmenu-77/amato/3820-earmarked-for-success-west-2011-part-one#comment-15233 The whole "Flames don't give their young guys a chance" is a bit of a fallacy. There is an excellent post on the top Flames message board which looks at this. The poster reviewed who was on their way out from last season: Conroy (39)Staios (37)Modin (36)Morrison (35)Kotalik (32)Regehr (30)Pardy (26) Who were retained and added: long list. And who potentially could be on the roster: D - Wilson (28) F - Byron (22) F - Bouma (21) F - Nemisz (21) D - Brodie (21) In the posters words: "Average of the added, retained and potential players is 28.23. That would have had us 13th youngest last year." ...[breaks down potential position battles before concluding] ... "Seems very likely the Flames will be middle of the pack in the NHL teams in terms of AVG age. I think we can call BS on the, "Flames are one of the oldest teams in the league" statement if people are still using it. " - dsteen Wed, 13 Jul 2011 16:28:25 +0100 http://hockey.dobbersports.com/index.php/columnistsarticles-mainmenu-77/amato/3820-earmarked-for-success-west-2011-part-one#comment-15223 emerson could suprise as witn selanne departure ANA could decide too take a younger turn for the best dont you think,i dont see any top six right wing talent elsewere on their roster - pierre Wed, 13 Jul 2011 08:05:44 +0100 http://hockey.dobbersports.com/index.php/columnistsarticles-mainmenu-77/amato/3820-earmarked-for-success-west-2011-part-one#comment-15219 [b]RE: Backlund[/b] Yeah I dunno it just seems that the Flames are extremely hesitant to go the youth route. They're happy to fill the roster with vets to try to get into a playoff position and win. With Langkow, Stajan, and Jokinen in the mix it'd be hard pressed for Backlund to get any significant time IMO. - Ryan Ma Wed, 13 Jul 2011 06:15:33 +0100 http://hockey.dobbersports.com/index.php/columnistsarticles-mainmenu-77/amato/3820-earmarked-for-success-west-2011-part-one#comment-15218 [b]RE: Frolik[/b] Yeah I kinda just went with capgeek.com and if the player is still unsigned I kinda just went with their current roster [b]at the moment[/b]. It's kinda hard to speculate who will be signed and who won't. I think for next week I might add a RFA/UFA column just so it's mentioned somewhere. - Ryan Ma Wed, 13 Jul 2011 06:14:05 +0100 http://hockey.dobbersports.com/index.php/columnistsarticles-mainmenu-77/amato/3820-earmarked-for-success-west-2011-part-one#comment-15216 Awesome read! Looking forward to the rest . . . - lcbtd Wed, 13 Jul 2011 05:16:54 +0100 http://hockey.dobbersports.com/index.php/columnistsarticles-mainmenu-77/amato/3820-earmarked-for-success-west-2011-part-one#comment-15214 Ryan and Russ - i like this series very much and it was very helpful last year while i was making my own projections (which helped me to draft better then ever). I am looking forward to next part already. Thank you very much ;) - Michal Sk Wed, 13 Jul 2011 03:12:21 +0100 http://hockey.dobbersports.com/index.php/columnistsarticles-mainmenu-77/amato/3820-earmarked-for-success-west-2011-part-one#comment-15212 I wonder if/when the Flames will give Backlund a chance to centre the top line? I know he's still young and perhaps there are issues that I'm not aware of, but Stajan doesn't appear to be the answer and Jokinen doesn't have great chemistry with Iginla. Langkow could be the wildcard. - horrorfan Wed, 13 Jul 2011 02:12:07 +0100 http://hockey.dobbersports.com/index.php/columnistsarticles-mainmenu-77/amato/3820-earmarked-for-success-west-2011-part-one#comment-15204 The fantasy guide, I have a line that exploded in the playoffs: Bickell-Bolland-Frolik I put Sharp between Hossa and Stalberg/Olesz - Dobber Tue, 12 Jul 2011 11:35:27 +0100 http://hockey.dobbersports.com/index.php/columnistsarticles-mainmenu-77/amato/3820-earmarked-for-success-west-2011-part-one#comment-15203 Shoeless, I immediately thought the same thing. I thought that the lines would look like: Brunette - Toews - Kane Sharp - Bolland - Hossa Frolik - Kruger - Stalberg Carcillo - Smith - Bickell/Olesz Despite owning him, I don't see Morin on the team until/unless he tears up the A (so a mid-season addition at best). Then again, you never know what direction the Hawks go once Bolland gets hurt... - KK Tue, 12 Jul 2011 10:43:45 +0100 http://hockey.dobbersports.com/index.php/columnistsarticles-mainmenu-77/amato/3820-earmarked-for-success-west-2011-part-one#comment-15201 Probably because he isn't signed yet... - Martin Bouchard Tue, 12 Jul 2011 10:40:30 +0100 http://hockey.dobbersports.com/index.php/columnistsarticles-mainmenu-77/amato/3820-earmarked-for-success-west-2011-part-one#comment-15199 No mention of Frolik in Chicago has me wondering if I missed a trade somewhere along the line? - Shoeless Tue, 12 Jul 2011 10:07:54 +0100