Comments for 15 Points to Consider - June at http://hockey.dobbersports.com , comment 1 to 12 out of 12 comments http://hockey.dobbersports.com Sun, 19 May 2013 20:42:34 +0100 FeedCreator 1.7.3 http://hockey.dobbersports.com/index.php/jeff-angus/3712-15-points-to-consider-june#comment-14382 Obviously as i modified my comment, the sentence in the middle about two dmen does not make sense. I mentioned three :D It's like that joke about army officer saying to his soldiers: The machine gun has four parts, they are these three: barrel and stock ;D - Michal Sk Sun, 05 Jun 2011 03:20:31 +0100 http://hockey.dobbersports.com/index.php/jeff-angus/3712-15-points-to-consider-june#comment-14381 Another interesting piece of this series by Angus. Thanks. I think Detroit will use cap space to get one missing piece, even one of those three free agents - Bieksa, Wisniewski, Ehrhoff . Don't be surprised if one of those two dmen signs with them. Best Detroit prospect forward in my eyes is Tomas Tatar. He is always ahead of expectations and the only thing missing is size. However he does not hesitate to go to the corners. At one stage he was among top 16 in AHL productivity even though he missed a bunch of games while playing for Detroit. - Michal Sk Sun, 05 Jun 2011 03:12:00 +0100 http://hockey.dobbersports.com/index.php/jeff-angus/3712-15-points-to-consider-june#comment-14367 Boucher's philosophy is mor in line with what you would see in football or basketball. You can be productive with one or two elite skills. After developing those, you round out the game. This is relatively common in the NHL too. I would limit This philosophy to only the core items - shot power, shot accuracy, speed, core strength, stick handling, etc. If you are extremely fast, don't focus on strength because it might slow you down and make you average with both. Very few people can be elite or near elite in all areas. - Mabus Sat, 04 Jun 2011 05:14:45 +0100 http://hockey.dobbersports.com/index.php/jeff-angus/3712-15-points-to-consider-june#comment-14364 I wouldnt be surprised if Buffalo is a serious contender for Richards. He would be a huge upgrade over Connolly and when you consider how much time Connolly misses- the extra dough is worth it, not to mention the upgrade in offense/leadership. Add a top 4 dmen and a decent backup to spell Miller- and theyve got a pretty good team-lots of youth- and more coming (Adam,Kassian,Foligno). As for the Canucks d, not sure why Ballard isnt playing ahead of Rome (who granted has played some great hockey this post season), but obviously Rome and Tanev are AV's preference, so the only way Ballard stays- is if the Canucks lose both Bieksa and Ehrhoff. Salo may take a hometown discount for a final year-but if another team throws a big payday at him (ala Ohlund) then he may be elsewhere next year. Oddly enough Ehrhoff may draw the biggest offers, and he maybe the l dman the Nucks miss the least. Edler and Bieksa both can be top 10 dmen in the NHL and with Tanev- who knows- has yet to look out of place. They do have some decent prospects,but most are likely 2 years away. Gillis will somehow make sure they have plenty of NHL dmen ready - his plan has paid off in spades this year. - Larry Fri, 03 Jun 2011 20:42:06 +0100 http://hockey.dobbersports.com/index.php/jeff-angus/3712-15-points-to-consider-june#comment-14362 i think the Boucher bit is more of a reminder to players to not forget to work on what got them to the show in the first place. some NHL players, and i'm thinking of more than a few Flames right now, seem to have stopped working on the fundamentals like shooting and puck handling in favour of bulking up and learning to play defensively. it's not that you should do all of one or the other, or probably even 80% of one or the other... it's just that you gotta consciously make time for everything. defensive play will come with experience and coaching. for a kid like Stamkos, his shooting is the reason there is even a debate about being top 3 (he ain't :P). - ultrawhiteness Fri, 03 Jun 2011 13:22:57 +0100 http://hockey.dobbersports.com/index.php/jeff-angus/3712-15-points-to-consider-june#comment-14361 "Kesler: Truly multidimensional. Can Score, pass, carry the puck, defend, hit, agitate, lead, and pretty much anything else." This is all you needed to write. Kesler is almost completely without weaknesses. He does everything VERY well. The Canucks are in the Cup because he has been such a complete player. It's almost like he has no weaknesses... hmmm... - Pengwin7 Fri, 03 Jun 2011 11:41:49 +0100 http://hockey.dobbersports.com/index.php/jeff-angus/3712-15-points-to-consider-june#comment-14360 I'd say it's more likely Boucher has been reading some personal development and management books lately and took the idea from something like [i]Now, Discover Your Strengths[/i] and figured, hey, why not give it a try. - doulos Fri, 03 Jun 2011 11:22:23 +0100 http://hockey.dobbersports.com/index.php/jeff-angus/3712-15-points-to-consider-june#comment-14359 And I completely disagree with YOU. Sorry but that is the sort of thinking that led everyone to believe that you NEED to bully your way to win the Cup (Anaheim)and that you NEED lots of Veterans to guide you to the Cup (Detroit) or that you can't win a cup without a couple of Superstars (Pittsburg). Yes a team has to have well rounded players but not everyone is like a Crosby or Stevie Y in that they can focus on something and BOOM they are awesome at it (Yzerman and defense and Crosby with goals and faceoffs). That does not mean that a lot of people on your team have to be well rounded. You have to be ok to a certain extent but don't try to elevate your weaknesses to the level of your strengths. Let us look at the Canucks as an example. The Sedins are almost completely one dimensional players. They play a puck possession, tic-tac-toe game better then anyone else in the league. They have extremely low takeaway numbers and are not that fast and do not hit or fight. That is one-dimensional. Burrows used to be a one dimensional grinder/superpest. Now he is the speedy digger who gets the puck for the Sedins and taps it in the net. He has takeaways and goals, that is about it. About halfway through the game in game one Burr had 12 touches of the puck and the Sedins had 53 and 56 each. He has one dimensional "the third Sedin" playing that way with anyone else would not work at all. Raymond: Speed, speed more speed with some hands thrown in. He could be considered well rounded as his speed helps him defensively but there is nothing else about him that stands out. He has decent hands and is ok at puck possesion but everything else is below or above average. Kesler: Truly multidimensional. Can Score, pass, carry the puck, defend, hit, agitate, lead, and pretty much anything else. Higgins: Have not seen enough of him to get a real feel on exactly what he brings... Someone can comment but he seems pretty much well rounded with nothing sticking out except maybe hysicality and taking the puck to the net. Torres: Recent goal aside the dude is a bowling ball. The puck bounces off of him and into the corner where some poor soul gets it before the bowling ball hits him full force. Nothing else stands out. Lapierre: Seems well rounded but again have not seen enough to conclusively describe what he brings. Hansen: Becoming much more well rounded. Non playoffs he is great defensively with a huge amount of takeaways per 60 min. Fast forechecking and backchecking. Now he seems to have developed more vision and hands. 4th line is the 4th line and we have about 6 of them. One who could play next game is possibly the most one-dimensional in the league; Malhotra. Wins faceoffs and plays great defense. That is it. I don't have time to do the Defense but not all of them are as well rounded as they appear. Edler:Offense with hitting, Ehrhoff: puck moving. Salo: Well rounded. Ballard: Puck moving, rush joining with a hipcheck in the arsenal. Bieksa: More well rounded now. Rome: Stay at home. Hamhuis: Great Defensive d who can move the puck. Tanev: Great first pass and composure. Alberts: Big body. All but Salo have significant weaknesses but they compliment each other and most share the trait of being puckmovers. 2-4 of the 18 players I named were truly well rounded the rest of them are great at what they do but have only one or two things that are their "role". The Sedins might be the best roleplayers in the NHL today. - Austin Fri, 03 Jun 2011 11:07:24 +0100 http://hockey.dobbersports.com/index.php/jeff-angus/3712-15-points-to-consider-june#comment-14358 I do agree with you, but i think what boucher may be saying is: As a young player focus on your strengths now using 80% of your time and energy until you have mastered them and developed the confidence to shift that % and time into the other aspects of your game. I dont think he's saying "Dont play defence" i think he's saying make your skating stronger your shot harder and more accurate, make your drives to the net more powerfull, Go threw your checks, dig deeper!!! Then when you have all that mastered u will have everything necessary including the experience in the pro game to tackle the defensive end! Just my perception :) - 5hole Fri, 03 Jun 2011 11:06:22 +0100 http://hockey.dobbersports.com/index.php/jeff-angus/3712-15-points-to-consider-june#comment-14357 A very, very, VERY good 15 points. I really enjoyed them. I strongly disagree with one statement "His logic makes sense – if you are working on your weaknesses, they may become average or slightly above average, but your strengths will suffer." This is complete BS. Look at the leadership on the most recent Stanley Cup winners: Toews/Keith, Crosby, Datsyuk/Zetterberg/Lidstrom. These are some of the game's best two-way, well-rounded players. Hossa's been to the last 3 Cups - and he has is one of the most well-rounded players in the game. There is a good story about Steve Yzerman and how even he was asked to focus more on the defensive portion of his game. This resulted in the Wings elevating their team game to a Stanley Cup level. Perhaps the game's most singly dimensional player is Ilya Kovalchuk. Give me a count on his Stanley Cups... or playoff victories even. Every GM in the league wants well-rounded players. Yzerman is no different. I can guarantee you he wants his players to work on their weaknesses. {shaking head} - Pengwin7 Fri, 03 Jun 2011 10:17:44 +0100 http://hockey.dobbersports.com/index.php/jeff-angus/3712-15-points-to-consider-june#comment-14356 Angus great thought process as usual...On the Flyer side why do what they have hinted at trade Carter, then they can pick up both Gagne and Bryzgalov....should be doable. - mike hess Fri, 03 Jun 2011 10:14:25 +0100 http://hockey.dobbersports.com/index.php/jeff-angus/3712-15-points-to-consider-june#comment-14355 Great article Angus. I think there will be a mutiny in Philly if they clear cap space and use it on Gagne instead of Bryzgalov, Schneider or Vokoun. That said, you might still be right. Mabus - Mabus Fri, 03 Jun 2011 09:55:17 +0100