Comments for Marian Hossa vs. Daniel Briere at http://hockey.dobbersports.com , comment 1 to 3 out of 3 comments http://hockey.dobbersports.com Sat, 25 May 2013 05:15:49 +0100 FeedCreator 1.7.3 http://hockey.dobbersports.com/index.php/columnistsarticles-mainmenu-77/laidlaw/3671-marian-hossa-vs-daniel-briere#comment-13930 @Pengwin I did not go SO far back. I took the average of there production from the last four seasons where both saw a clear drop off in production. It was beneficial to go back four years so as to discuss what has happened to cause their drop of from superstardom. You'll note I also reviewed their production last season so I'm not sure about your quibble here. Furthermore it is beneficial to gather as much information as possible to find trends. Have Briere or Hossa seen their per game production change much in the last four years? The answer is no. They have remained very stable so the four year average is quite valid. I take issue with your unwillingness to look back further than a year or two. You are missing out on valuable information and ultimately I think it opens you up to recency bias. Sometimes you need to forget about the past, which is why I didn't go beyond four years, but a lot of the time it is productive to look further back and unlock trends. I can't tell you what moves Chicago or Philly will make next season or who the linemates for Hossa or Briere will be. I just don't have that vision. Prognostigate to your hearts content but I've seen that they both receive top 6 minutes and a reasonable and similar amout of powerplay time with similarly talented players. Beyond that you are really just guessing. Underlying motivation for players? That's a whole article unto itself, player psychology and what not. Hossa fell short of the Cup twice without seeing his points spike, not sure you can make a case for Briere either. Briere is known as a playoff stud. There is little correlation between his playoff and his regular season production. I can't remember the figures but his points per game is drastically higher come playoffs. You can't use that as evidence that he's better. So as far as you liking Briere, I have to ask what evidence you are using? I'd argue you are falling victim to the recency bias, which I suspected many would and is why I said it would likely go to a split decision. - steve laidlaw Wed, 11 May 2011 18:00:16 +0100 http://hockey.dobbersports.com/index.php/columnistsarticles-mainmenu-77/laidlaw/3671-marian-hossa-vs-daniel-briere#comment-13924 There's always a good chance Quenville puts Sharp with Kane and Toews.....in that case, Hossa's most likely linemates would be Frolik and Bolland. Hoss and Bolland put together a big stretch of about 12 games right up to the time Bolland got concussed. Hossa also looked much better in general the last couple months of the season. I really do wonder if it took him that long to recover from his shoulder surgery....I don't think I saw Hossa lift the puck on a shot since his Detroit days until February of this year, and he went for 24 points in his last 23 games of the season. I would personally take Hossa over Briere and hope for the fully healthy season. If he can play 80 games, which is a possibility when he's dealing with small nagging injuries and nothing major, I think he goes for 70+ points next season. He's still one of the most skilled players in the league, and he does put that on display often. He won't be a 90+ point guy like he was in Atlanta, but I don't think Hoss is done with 80. - Seth Wed, 11 May 2011 11:15:50 +0100 http://hockey.dobbersports.com/index.php/columnistsarticles-mainmenu-77/laidlaw/3671-marian-hossa-vs-daniel-briere#comment-13915 The one could have gone a lot deeper. It seemed like a straight player comparison. Fantasy hockey articles should grab information from the [u]recent[/u] past and speculate on future performance. I'm not sure why you continue to go so far back. What about next year's likely linemates? What about next year's likely team changes? What about CHI's cap problems not allowing for great linemate depth for Hossa? What about underlying motivation for a player that's won a cup vs. so close? Briere he has really stepped up his play in the last two playoffs & this year. I think he is comfortable now in PHI. The goats there appear to be Carter, or Richards, or the goaltending. It is possible that PHI loses a couple forwards (Carter, Hartnell, Leino) and goes with mainly a two-line offensive rotation with an upgrade in goal (resulting in +/- improvement for Briere). Hossa got off to a blazing start this year and faded from there. Best case, he gets to line-up with Patrick Sharp. Worst case, Q moves Sharp up with JT & PK and Hossa is left playing with Kopecky. Personally, I like Briere by a good margin in this cage match. - Pengwin7 Wed, 11 May 2011 07:05:11 +0100