Comments for A Look Back at the Pre-Season Guide (2011) at http://hockey.dobbersports.com , comment 1 to 11 out of 11 comments http://hockey.dobbersports.com Sat, 18 May 2013 21:09:50 +0100 FeedCreator 1.7.3 http://hockey.dobbersports.com/index.php/columnistsarticles-mainmenu-77/amato/3669-a-look-back-at-the-pre-season-guide-2011#comment-13906 [b]RE: Gio, Steen, Samuelsson[/b] I dunno 43 points for a blue-liner is a HIT. Gio ended up being tied for 20th in terms of overall scoring. So that's pretty much your number 1/2 defensive scorer. I dunno what type of production you are expecting from a defenseman but 43 is a damn good total. Steen ended up with 51 points in 72 games, if he managed to get a full 82 game season in that would be close to 57-58 points and definitely a HIT. A lot of teams could use a 50+ point player. In the past it might have been a MISS or a PUSH, but being in the top 100 makes him a hit. Ditto for Samuelsson. Most would have drafted them for 40 points but to get 50-55 outta them is a bonus. At least that's my justification. - Ryan Ma Tue, 10 May 2011 21:40:19 +0100 http://hockey.dobbersports.com/index.php/columnistsarticles-mainmenu-77/amato/3669-a-look-back-at-the-pre-season-guide-2011#comment-13902 Only Yandle, SK and Erat out performed expectations by any margin. Rest busted! Sorry about your claim of 25%? - Adrian Keogh Tue, 10 May 2011 14:11:43 +0100 http://hockey.dobbersports.com/index.php/columnistsarticles-mainmenu-77/amato/3669-a-look-back-at-the-pre-season-guide-2011#comment-13901 Seems to me that if you are hitting on more than a 25% hit rate for sleepers then you are either a total genius or picking guys that aren't truly sleeper worthy calls. - Shoeless Tue, 10 May 2011 12:47:59 +0100 http://hockey.dobbersports.com/index.php/columnistsarticles-mainmenu-77/amato/3669-a-look-back-at-the-pre-season-guide-2011#comment-13900 [b]RE: Horcoff[/b] You know what I honestly don't like Horcoff, if you actually know me in real life, I actually had a bet with my friends that if Horcoff notched 70 points in the 2005-06 season I'd actually eat a shoe. Guess what he notched 73 and I still owe my friends that shoe when I head back home... So I hate him with a passion really... The thing is Horcoff is one of those players that has more impact in "real-life" than fantasy leagues. He's a great FO guy and does play with heart. It's just that his skill set isn't that of an elite player. Through all of the Oiler games that I do watch, him and Hemsky really do have something going on. They just seem to be able to sense each other on the ice and know where each other are. The problem for the both of him has been injuries. The Oilers are starting to transition to the young kids, but I'd still like to see them keep Horcoff and Hemmer together just so that they have a veteran option to show some leadership. Also if you look at the overall numbers they might not look as spectacular. But 27 points in 47 games, if you pro-rate that to a 82 game season, it would end up being pretty close to 50 points. With how the scoring has gone down this year, 50 points would have still put him in the top 120 scorers. So I mean he's not a "must own" for fantasy hockey, but he's not a bad option for a 3rd or 4th C or a league with FW as an option or fairly deep 16-20 team leagues. - Ryan Ma Tue, 10 May 2011 12:34:49 +0100 http://hockey.dobbersports.com/index.php/columnistsarticles-mainmenu-77/amato/3669-a-look-back-at-the-pre-season-guide-2011#comment-13899 RE: 
g;e right Yeah I dunno... I'm a perfectionist so I kinda want to be as near perfect as possible. I'm pretty hard on myself so when I see only a 25% hit rate that means I'm wrong 75% of the time, which annoys me. But I think you guys are right, with "sleeper" picks they are pretty much hit for a home run or strike out trying. I'll aim for 50% next pre-season guide. - Ryan Ma Tue, 10 May 2011 12:23:28 +0100 http://hockey.dobbersports.com/index.php/columnistsarticles-mainmenu-77/amato/3669-a-look-back-at-the-pre-season-guide-2011#comment-13898 [b]RE: Injured players[/b] That's always been my philosophy. If there were major injuries I generally give them a push just cause we never know what would have happened. It could have gone either way. It's the same as if a player notched 10 points in 5 games, but was injured for most of the season. I wouldn't go into it pro-rating the numbers to 164 points and give myself a hit. I'd give it a push too. - Ryan Ma Tue, 10 May 2011 12:20:45 +0100 http://hockey.dobbersports.com/index.php/columnistsarticles-mainmenu-77/amato/3669-a-look-back-at-the-pre-season-guide-2011#comment-13896 Ryan...good article. I don't think the % of right is that important, I view the comments and make my own final choices. By choosing the under the radar types you give food for thought. I stayed away from Mueller, Stalberg, and Gagner because of your comments and my own reasoning, regardless that you choose them. I did pick up Erat, Giordano and Hudler...only Hudler was a bad call on my part...While the Hudler choice was based on good thought process, clearly he was not the player we all thought. - mike hess Tue, 10 May 2011 11:05:26 +0100 http://hockey.dobbersports.com/index.php/columnistsarticles-mainmenu-77/amato/3669-a-look-back-at-the-pre-season-guide-2011#comment-13895 That's a mighty wind blowing with all those whiffs. I guess Logan Couture & Alex Pietrangelo was a bit tough to gauge. You still like Horcoff? Really??? - chris hayward Tue, 10 May 2011 10:45:04 +0100 http://hockey.dobbersports.com/index.php/columnistsarticles-mainmenu-77/amato/3669-a-look-back-at-the-pre-season-guide-2011#comment-13893 How do you give a push for a guy who didn't play a single game this year? - Big Ev Tue, 10 May 2011 09:22:26 +0100 http://hockey.dobbersports.com/index.php/columnistsarticles-mainmenu-77/amato/3669-a-look-back-at-the-pre-season-guide-2011#comment-13892 Yes, sleepers are hard to hit. I agree: 25% is decent, 50% should be considered amazing. In most pools, the "sleepers" should be guys you nab with your final 3-4 rounds of picks. My last four round picks this year for a 16-player team were: Neuvirth, Knuble, Voracek, and Paajarvi. I ended up dropping all of those guys (except Neuvirth) for waiver replacements. - Pengwin7 Tue, 10 May 2011 08:28:30 +0100 http://hockey.dobbersports.com/index.php/columnistsarticles-mainmenu-77/amato/3669-a-look-back-at-the-pre-season-guide-2011#comment-13891 I think around 25% is a good target for sleeper picks; otherwise, as you point out, they're not really sleepers. Keep digging deep and taking chances, Ryan - quality poolies know better than to think that most sleeper picks will pan out. - R Tue, 10 May 2011 08:18:17 +0100