Comments for Flying High or Destined to Fall at http://hockey.dobbersports.com , comment 1 to 20 out of 20 comments http://hockey.dobbersports.com Sun, 19 May 2013 23:52:10 +0100 FeedCreator 1.7.3 http://hockey.dobbersports.com/index.php/columnistsarticles-mainmenu-77/amato/3186-flying-high-or-destined-to-fall#comment-9115 thanks, going to stick with my guys for now (plus the other guys is a huge Kessel freak) Do you think Butler will take over from Leopold as the #2 guy in Buff? Got lots of PP time last night and produced, after JL jumped out to a fast start there.. cheers - david Thu, 21 Oct 2010 04:45:59 +0100 http://hockey.dobbersports.com/index.php/columnistsarticles-mainmenu-77/amato/3186-flying-high-or-destined-to-fall#comment-9103 [b]RE: Trade[/b] I would if you're looking to win for the next 3-4 years... I've watched Kessel quite a bit this season and the more I watch him the more I see why the Leafs paid so much to get him. I still wouldn't give up what they did to do so, but now it looks much more justified than it was 12 months ago. MSL (I'm assuming is Marty St. Louis) still has a bit of gas left in the tank and TB looks like they'll be a good 1-2, possibly great team in 3-4 years. The thing is he's winding down his career, so I wouldn't expect 90 points from him, but more like 80, 75, 70, 60... as he winds down his career. Carter is a RFA at the end of the season, but Philly is in a tough place. They don't really need him nor do they have the cap room to give him a significant raise. The problem is whether or not there is a team out there that would want to poach him at the price of 2 1st's, a 2nd, and a 3rd... In this day and age draft picks are valuable, and high priced under-achieving contracts are not... Look at the situations of Souray, Redden, Nylander... If he stays in Philly, he'll be buried with the depth of talent there, and his production will suffer. If he moves then his value could increase, but that's a lot of what if's for my liking. Fairly close deal, but I think I might be slightly towards the Kessel/MSL side than the Vanek/Carter side. - Ryan Ma Wed, 20 Oct 2010 10:54:01 +0100 http://hockey.dobbersports.com/index.php/columnistsarticles-mainmenu-77/amato/3186-flying-high-or-destined-to-fall#comment-9087 yep, that's where I'm at of course I just acquired E Staal this offseason too!! (arg) deal was Weber/Lidstrom for Staal/Enstrom ...still think I did ok cheers qustion -- would you do Vanek/Carter for Kessel/MSL? - david Wed, 20 Oct 2010 06:10:21 +0100 http://hockey.dobbersports.com/index.php/columnistsarticles-mainmenu-77/amato/3186-flying-high-or-destined-to-fall#comment-9077 [b]RE: Vanek[/b] Yeah I dunno I'm not a fan of him. He reminds me a lot of Eric Staal. One good season and we just keep going back to the well thinking this is the season he gets back to it... year after year we just keep reaching. The thing is the year that he picked 84 points he had a pretty solid linemate of Danny Briere feeding him the puck and he also had Afinogenov too. Now it's Connolly and Roy and throw ins like Pominville, Stafford... Vanek is a sniper... the problem with snipers is that they go on season long "hot" or "cold" streaks. Or even 3-4 seasons at a time. Look at Cheechoo, the year he won the Rocket Richard, he connected at 17.7 percent... 5 years later and he can't even get an NHL gig. IMO a lot of it comes down to confidence, some players find it back, some don't... The few Sabres games that I have watched it just doesn't seem like he's the confident sniper that he was 3-4 seasons ago. He's turned more of a banger, front of the net presence, than the sniper he once was. The beginning of the season would have been an ideal time to deal him cause he still does have the "big name" attachment with him. Now his value is rock bottom, if you're looking to move him you won't get equal value for him. Best case now is probably just hang onto him and hope that he bounces back. - Ryan Ma Wed, 20 Oct 2010 01:24:20 +0100 http://hockey.dobbersports.com/index.php/columnistsarticles-mainmenu-77/amato/3186-flying-high-or-destined-to-fall#comment-9076 [b]RE: Richards/Liles for Malkin[/b] I think I might be against the majority here and say no... I'm not a big fan of Malkin, I have a feeling that last season wasn't just a "down" year... I wrote it in the forums before, that it's only 1 outta the 4 seasons that they've played together and both surpassed the 100 point mark. I just think Liles and Richards are both gonna have big years... I'd pass - Ryan Ma Tue, 19 Oct 2010 22:21:46 +0100 http://hockey.dobbersports.com/index.php/columnistsarticles-mainmenu-77/amato/3186-flying-high-or-destined-to-fall#comment-9075 [b]RE: Dennis[/b] I'd swap Hudler for Brown. Datsyuk, Zetterberg, Franzen are going to be the go to guys. I don't think there's a lot of room for Hudler to put up bigger/better numbers than Brown. I also like Stewart over Wolski. The Yotes are a very defensive team. They'll win a lot of 1-0, 2-1 games, so the offense won't put up a lot of points. Stewart should see a higher production than Wolski, IMO. - Ryan Ma Tue, 19 Oct 2010 22:11:19 +0100 http://hockey.dobbersports.com/index.php/columnistsarticles-mainmenu-77/amato/3186-flying-high-or-destined-to-fall#comment-9074 RE: Brown I don't think they're going to be together all season long, but 5 games in and they're still together is a good sign. They should more chemistry together than Jokinen and Iggy, so I think they'll stick for a bit longer. - Ryan Ma Tue, 19 Oct 2010 22:05:22 +0100 http://hockey.dobbersports.com/index.php/columnistsarticles-mainmenu-77/amato/3186-flying-high-or-destined-to-fall#comment-9072 thanks very much -- good points, all I grabbed Cola & Berglund on the wire, so no worries (though have a secret hope for Berg to blossom into an 80-pter), but did draft Huse in the 1st round of my supplemental draft, so bit worried there. I took him above the likes of Bernier & Bogo (but needed wingers more ..have Luongo & Brodeur, grr ..and have Enstrom.) Not too worried, now if I can just get my damn team Canada goalies to stop playing like team Kazakhstan... ps, I know this is West-focused, but what do you think about Vanek? He was supposed to be my #2 W after Parise, but is way down the list with his bum-like play .. the worst is I had a chance to trade him for Marty St Louis, but passed due to the age. It's feeling like 60pts is a stretch for this floater... cheers - david Tue, 19 Oct 2010 12:08:46 +0100 http://hockey.dobbersports.com/index.php/columnistsarticles-mainmenu-77/amato/3186-flying-high-or-destined-to-fall#comment-9071 In my keeper league I took advantage of hot start and gave up Brad Richards + Liles for Malkin. Do you think it's good move? - LuckyLuke Tue, 19 Oct 2010 11:55:38 +0100 http://hockey.dobbersports.com/index.php/columnistsarticles-mainmenu-77/amato/3186-flying-high-or-destined-to-fall#comment-9070 Great info Ryan. 1yr pts only, would you replace any of Hudler, Sharp, Duchene, Wolski for any of Brown, Kopecky or Stewart ? Cheers Grapes - Dennis Tue, 19 Oct 2010 11:11:24 +0100 http://hockey.dobbersports.com/index.php/columnistsarticles-mainmenu-77/amato/3186-flying-high-or-destined-to-fall#comment-9069 [b]RE: Stewart[/b] A lot of people thought a regression on his part, or only a slight improvement (70-75 points). As mention in the article he's doing pretty well on just 17 mins of ice-time per game. If that bumps up to 18+ or 19+. Plus more PP time (only 2:46 atm). I wouldn't be surprised for point per game maybe even 85 points by season's end. - Ryan Ma Tue, 19 Oct 2010 11:05:00 +0100 http://hockey.dobbersports.com/index.php/columnistsarticles-mainmenu-77/amato/3186-flying-high-or-destined-to-fall#comment-9068 [b]RE: Colo/Berglund/Huse[/b] I've always like Colo, and he'll always steal some time away from EJ just cause he is a offensive D. The problem for me is that he's not a shooter, so all of his points are going to be assists. So when it comes to the PP you might see him produce in spurts (unlike Doughty, Green types). If he happens to touch the puck before the puck goes in well he'll pick up points, if they decide to cycle down low he'll miss out on the points. So his upside is always going to be limited compared to the "big namers" who generate their own offense. Berglund - as mentioned in the article I think ice-time is the main problem. They just have too much depth there for great fantasy values. When the ice-time/production is spread out that much you're just going to see everyone around the 45-55 point mark and nothing really all that spectacular. I just don't think that he'll hit 60 this season nor any Blue for that matter. Huse - With Huse you have to keep in mind that he's the streakiest player in the NHL. He'll go on a point-per-game tear then disappear for 5-6 games at a time with gooseeggs. So him starting off point-per-game doesn't mean much. The benefit that he has had the last few years is that there wasn't a lot of competition, so when he slumped he had the opportunity to get out of it. Now with Filatov chomping at the bit and Umberger buried, there's much more opportunity/competition for Arniel to move one of those guys and never look back (if they click). So I'd stick a huge buyer beware sign on him. Not a lot of upside, but a whole crapload of room for error. - Ryan Ma Tue, 19 Oct 2010 11:02:16 +0100 http://hockey.dobbersports.com/index.php/columnistsarticles-mainmenu-77/amato/3186-flying-high-or-destined-to-fall#comment-9067 RE: Hossa I wouldn't cement him in for 100 just only because there were only [b]4 players[/b] that actually hit that mark last season. Does he have the skill to do it? For sure! But the way that I see it is that the 100+ point guys are generally the guys that pile up the assists like 70+... Hossa has never been a big assists guy. The year he had 57, he had Kovalchuk on his wing. He's more of a 35-45 assist guy, and I don't really see him potting 65-55 goals... - Ryan Ma Tue, 19 Oct 2010 10:53:42 +0100 http://hockey.dobbersports.com/index.php/columnistsarticles-mainmenu-77/amato/3186-flying-high-or-destined-to-fall#comment-9065 RE: Sykora Yeah I knew there were two of them, I couldn't dig up any info as to which was drafted by the wings and which one was the flop... Great dig up Sentium! - Ryan Ma Tue, 19 Oct 2010 10:35:24 +0100 http://hockey.dobbersports.com/index.php/columnistsarticles-mainmenu-77/amato/3186-flying-high-or-destined-to-fall#comment-9064 I just went and picked up Kopecky cuz of this article and Don's comment about the eligibility. Cheers - Derrek Tue, 19 Oct 2010 10:25:03 +0100 http://hockey.dobbersports.com/index.php/columnistsarticles-mainmenu-77/amato/3186-flying-high-or-destined-to-fall#comment-9062 Kopecky just gained LW eligibility in Yahoo leagues, so now he's got the awesome LW/RW designation. I'm hanging onto him until he gets hurt or goes on a prolonged slump... This years Patrick Sharp! - DonCoburleone Tue, 19 Oct 2010 09:09:45 +0100 http://hockey.dobbersports.com/index.php/columnistsarticles-mainmenu-77/amato/3186-flying-high-or-destined-to-fall#comment-9059 Kane will maybe take a 5 point dip overall due to Hossa. He is his own star, which has been evident since his rookie season. For the record, I like Kane but am not a "fan", as I like intangibles and cluth-ability in my guys, i.e. Toews. I would not sneeze at Kane in any respect. Hossa is just living up to what he should have been. Reclaiming lost glory - and he is getting there because he is getting icetime that he did not get last season on a deep team full of Byfugliens and Versteegs etc etc. Ice-time=production. Stewart should have been on everyone's radar. He and Downie were the two big multi-cat guys to break out last year. Brown is a blip - historically he and Kopitar don't mix well. I would not expect the pair to remain together indefinitely, and each break the 100pt barrier. FYI, doubting the RED WING's scouting department is like doubting Martin Brodeur. Seems correct since they draft so low, and Marty plays himself out of his legend. Then just when you have given up a 7th rounder becomes a 75pt player and Marty single-handedly saves another Devil's season, and makes an ump-teeth appearance in the playoffs. - Jon Dey Tue, 19 Oct 2010 08:38:50 +0100 http://hockey.dobbersports.com/index.php/columnistsarticles-mainmenu-77/amato/3186-flying-high-or-destined-to-fall#comment-9057 Great article, really interesting takes, thanks. Couple guys I wonder about -- Colaiacovo? Pretty hot to start -- will he keep it up and push EJ for PP QB? can he get 45-50 pts? I'm hoping he's a high flier, but will settle for decent flier. If not I may try to sell high.. Staying w the Blues -- Berglund? 3 pts in 5gp is nice, but the 17:40 TOI up from 13:30 and 4:20 pp TOI/gp up from 2:16 give one hope for solid returns this year. Can he get 60pts? Decent flier? Huselius? Ice time about the same as last year, but new coach and so far PPG ..do we think he can hit 70? cheers - david Tue, 19 Oct 2010 07:43:24 +0100 http://hockey.dobbersports.com/index.php/columnistsarticles-mainmenu-77/amato/3186-flying-high-or-destined-to-fall#comment-9055 Just a small note about the Wings' drafting. The Petr Sykora they drafted is not the Petr Sykora who has had a bunch of success in the NHL. It's a completely different Petr Sykora who has done exactly nothing in the NHL. - sentium Tue, 19 Oct 2010 05:56:07 +0100 http://hockey.dobbersports.com/index.php/columnistsarticles-mainmenu-77/amato/3186-flying-high-or-destined-to-fall#comment-9054 Very good article, thanks! How about Hossa - do you think he will continue the torrid pace? Can he crack 100pts? - Zacharias Tue, 19 Oct 2010 05:54:35 +0100