Comments for Undervalued and Underappreciated (2010) at http://hockey.dobbersports.com , comment 1 to 18 out of 18 comments http://hockey.dobbersports.com Sat, 25 May 2013 22:50:16 +0100 FeedCreator 1.7.3 http://hockey.dobbersports.com/index.php/columnistsarticles-mainmenu-77/amato/3107-undervalued-and-underappreciated-2010#comment-8347 Just want to say thanks for putting this together Ryan. It's very helpful. - horrorfan Thu, 16 Sep 2010 02:45:50 +0100 http://hockey.dobbersports.com/index.php/columnistsarticles-mainmenu-77/amato/3107-undervalued-and-underappreciated-2010#comment-8337 Forgot to say in my other post, but Andy Macdonald is a steal in my mind as well. Could rebound for 65-70 points next year. - TML Wed, 15 Sep 2010 17:33:52 +0100 http://hockey.dobbersports.com/index.php/columnistsarticles-mainmenu-77/amato/3107-undervalued-and-underappreciated-2010#comment-8324 I really don't see the comparison between last year's Canucks and this year's Avs. While the Sedins busting out was a surprise, the Canucks already had lots of depth and were on many people's short list of cup contenders going into last year. Right now, the Avs more closely resemble the Blue Jackets from the year before-- a young team coming off a season in which they might have played a little over their heads and rode a hot goalie into a playoff spot. They completely faded down the stretch when Craig Anderson came back to Earth and that first round series going as deep as it did was more a function of the Sharks nearly self-destructing than the Avs playing well. - Isle B. Wed, 15 Sep 2010 08:25:42 +0100 http://hockey.dobbersports.com/index.php/columnistsarticles-mainmenu-77/amato/3107-undervalued-and-underappreciated-2010#comment-8318 If you play in a Yahoo league you have 164 games per forward position (two lines or two players per position.) A player like Hemsky who can get you roughly point per game is great as a #2 or #3 winger - when he gets hurt just fill in what category is lacking on your team and be grateful for the games he is able to play. - chris hayward Wed, 15 Sep 2010 04:39:34 +0100 http://hockey.dobbersports.com/index.php/columnistsarticles-mainmenu-77/amato/3107-undervalued-and-underappreciated-2010#comment-8317 RE: Colorado Yeah I think it's trying to find that happy medium... I mean every year there's surprise teams, last season it was Van, Bos the year before, Mon/Car the year before that... it's trying to find the formula to figure out who it is for the upcoming year. I think it just trying to find areas where teams can improve and trying to find teams that are at the bottom of the barrel and then investing cheaply on them and hoping they give you a good payday. No offense to Angus' articles, but players on CHI, PHI, PIT, WSH, VAN are already well known, you won't be able to get those players on the cheap. In fact you'll probably have to overpay to get them because of the hype surrounding them. It's finding the stocks that are low and on the brink of rising that's the hard part... - Ryan Ma Tue, 14 Sep 2010 23:51:09 +0100 http://hockey.dobbersports.com/index.php/columnistsarticles-mainmenu-77/amato/3107-undervalued-and-underappreciated-2010#comment-8316 RE: Marcus Thanks for the list Dobber passed it on to me last week, I just didn't have enough space to write a blurb about everyone of them, so I had to pick and choose. Also I left the East players cause I didn't want to tread onto Russ territory. There's a ton out East especially on LW. I meant to give you a shout out in the article, but it slipped my mind last minute... - Ryan Ma Tue, 14 Sep 2010 23:41:52 +0100 http://hockey.dobbersports.com/index.php/columnistsarticles-mainmenu-77/amato/3107-undervalued-and-underappreciated-2010#comment-8315 RE: Clowe The only problem with Clowe is depth charts... behind JT, Marleau, Pavelski, Heatley, Boyle... there's not a lot more points to spread out really... factor in Clowe and Seto and the points are even more scarce. I think he is undervalued a bit, but I don't really see anything more than a 50 point season from the both of them, and that's kinda borderline own for fantasy leagues... - Ryan Ma Tue, 14 Sep 2010 23:39:57 +0100 http://hockey.dobbersports.com/index.php/columnistsarticles-mainmenu-77/amato/3107-undervalued-and-underappreciated-2010#comment-8311 You always make me think...I guess that is the definition of a great article....I actually will pick hiller if I get the chance because I think he will surprise. I have always thought Zidlicky is a steady eddy on the D side. The Clowe comment is a good one as well in the comments. It is interesting when you look at the article on the teams at Dobber Hockey... to stock up on Col is not there...I think you always need to balance the ones that have produced and the ones that may produce..the difference between winning you league or not is getting that part right. Your thoughts on Colorado are spot on if you are willing to take a risk. Mike - mike hess Tue, 14 Sep 2010 18:55:12 +0100 http://hockey.dobbersports.com/index.php/columnistsarticles-mainmenu-77/amato/3107-undervalued-and-underappreciated-2010#comment-8309 I have my list of undervalued below (I removed the duplicates from your list). Many of these are available in the last rounds of most drafts. One quick note - Zidlicky and Havlat had terrible +/- last year (I had them both and remember). It got so bad with Havlat last year that I had to drop him. RW: Briere, Horton, Downie (PIM's), Samuellson, Hudler, Boyes, Clarkson, Kovalev, Doan LW: Hartnell (PIM's), Jokinen, Penner, Vanek, Morrow D: Lidstrom, Rafalski, Letang, Karlsson, Carlson, Whitney, Kubina, Souray (not in Edm, but somewhere) C: Kesler, Antropov, Kreji, Zajac **Zetterberg, J. Staal - potential C/LW, Briere - potential C/RW Cheers, Blueman - Marcus Lepkowski Tue, 14 Sep 2010 17:56:59 +0100 http://hockey.dobbersports.com/index.php/columnistsarticles-mainmenu-77/amato/3107-undervalued-and-underappreciated-2010#comment-8308 RE: Colorado Prior to last season (summer of 2008-09) did you think Vancouver would have pulled off what they did last season? Did you really think that Sedin was anything more than a point-per-game player? Did you think he would go on to win the Art Ross? Did you really think that the Nucks had the 2nd best offense in the league behind only the Caps? What I'm saying is that prior to last season Vancouver was pretty much in the same situation as what Colorado is in now, pretty run of the mill playoff bound team with upside, no one heading into last season thought that Van would go on to produce the 2nd best offensive numbers in the league, no one thought that Hank would win the Art Ross... it's kinda the same situation as the Avs... The Nucks went from a 11th ranked 2.96 GF/game team to the 2nd ranked 3.27 GF/game team over a course of a year... Col had the 6th ranked 2.89 GF/game team last season, and if they can get hot could possibly mirror what the Nucks did last season. If you think about factors such as: 1) a full year with Mueller (20 points in 15 contests)... 2) a full year with depth guys like Yip and Jones... 3) Hejduk finally feeling healthy again... 4) Duchene with a full season under his belt... 5) 15th ranked PP last season... There's a few factors that make sense for the Avs to follow what the Nucks did last season... I wouldn't go around betting the house on it, but I see plenty of similarities. - Ryan Ma Tue, 14 Sep 2010 17:49:52 +0100 http://hockey.dobbersports.com/index.php/columnistsarticles-mainmenu-77/amato/3107-undervalued-and-underappreciated-2010#comment-8307 How about Ryan Clowe? There isn't that much difference from him and a Scott Hartnell and yet he's way down the list. Thoughts? Otherwise, great list Ryan! ;) - Let' s Go Rangers Tue, 14 Sep 2010 17:41:40 +0100 http://hockey.dobbersports.com/index.php/columnistsarticles-mainmenu-77/amato/3107-undervalued-and-underappreciated-2010#comment-8306 RE: Mike Hiller and Mason I think are, considering they're pretty clear cut number one goalies who can probably get 65 starts, definitely undervalued in my books... there's not much value for Raycoft and Osgood, so there's not much to undervalue the value of nothing... As for the D, there's plenty of them out there and anything past the 40th D they pretty much all will produce the same type of numbers anyways... Liles/Quincey/Burns are just a couple of favourite of mine. I've always liked JP and will think he'll do alright, once again pretty much just preferential really... - Ryan Ma Tue, 14 Sep 2010 17:30:10 +0100 http://hockey.dobbersports.com/index.php/columnistsarticles-mainmenu-77/amato/3107-undervalued-and-underappreciated-2010#comment-8305 RE: Zidlicky Is he injured? Last I heard he was healthy? - Ryan Ma Tue, 14 Sep 2010 17:25:59 +0100 http://hockey.dobbersports.com/index.php/columnistsarticles-mainmenu-77/amato/3107-undervalued-and-underappreciated-2010#comment-8304 Though I have the feeling that you may tip off my competition. I had half these guys on my yahoo blunders list. - John Koten Tue, 14 Sep 2010 17:00:31 +0100 http://hockey.dobbersports.com/index.php/columnistsarticles-mainmenu-77/amato/3107-undervalued-and-underappreciated-2010#comment-8303 Sssssh............ But good article. One thing you should keep in mind, is that in mock drafts, maximum of 14 teams, players like Raycroft, Orgood, Dumont, Liles, probably should be avoided. I think someone's who's not your lsit who should be is David Backes. I love picking Havlat int eh last round. :) - TML Tue, 14 Sep 2010 16:41:37 +0100 http://hockey.dobbersports.com/index.php/columnistsarticles-mainmenu-77/amato/3107-undervalued-and-underappreciated-2010#comment-8302 Stastny's team is miles behind Vancouver in terms of forward talent...they won't even make the playoffs this year. I don't think Stastny has what it takes to put up anywhere close to 110 points or whatever Sedin had last year. - Big Ev Tue, 14 Sep 2010 16:20:10 +0100 http://hockey.dobbersports.com/index.php/columnistsarticles-mainmenu-77/amato/3107-undervalued-and-underappreciated-2010#comment-8301 Ryan..great article, but... I agree with Hiller, Raycroft, Mason and Osgood maybe unappreciated but not under valued. Burns, Liles and Quincey...there are so many others better and worth more Neal and Tanguay...right on Good RW picks except for JP who I just don't see making fantasy contribution Centers I agree with as well...most I would not draft but will wait and see to pick up on teh waiver wire if I can... Mike - mike hess Tue, 14 Sep 2010 16:07:32 +0100 http://hockey.dobbersports.com/index.php/columnistsarticles-mainmenu-77/amato/3107-undervalued-and-underappreciated-2010#comment-8300 I got Havlat and Zidlicky in my pool. but how long is zidlicky injured? - Sahil Tue, 14 Sep 2010 16:01:57 +0100