Comments for Forget Me Not (West 2010) at http://hockey.dobbersports.com , comment 1 to 10 out of 10 comments http://hockey.dobbersports.com Fri, 24 May 2013 06:06:10 +0100 FeedCreator 1.7.3 http://hockey.dobbersports.com/index.php/columnistsarticles-mainmenu-77/amato/3045-forget-me-not-west-2010#comment-7749 hmmm maybe I should change it to underachieving players... since I put Yip and Franson too and he's pretty fresh... Good pickup swoon! - Ryan Ma Wed, 18 Aug 2010 11:38:05 +0100 http://hockey.dobbersports.com/index.php/columnistsarticles-mainmenu-77/amato/3045-forget-me-not-west-2010#comment-7745 "Western Conference underachieving veterans" Including rookie [b]Jason Demers[/b] on your Notable Mentions list? I'm confused! - SWoon Wed, 18 Aug 2010 06:39:07 +0100 http://hockey.dobbersports.com/index.php/columnistsarticles-mainmenu-77/amato/3045-forget-me-not-west-2010#comment-7732 Definitely, drafts do take a lot of time and attention especially those who are after a championship. Knowledge is power and the more of it that you have the better off you're going to be. The last thing that you want is all of us paddling in the same direction and you get a very biased view on things. The more different opinions you have the more knowledge you have to base [b]YOUR OWN[/b] judgement on. At the end of the day I can spruik anything I want, but it is you that needs to walk through the door. As long as I've opened your mind to hey be aware of this fact, I've done my job and life would be awfully boring if we all believed 100% in Dobber's suggestions... - Ryan Ma Wed, 18 Aug 2010 01:11:43 +0100 http://hockey.dobbersports.com/index.php/columnistsarticles-mainmenu-77/amato/3045-forget-me-not-west-2010#comment-7729 Ryan...thanks for the clarificaiton....There is so much to consider when making a pick; your insight very helpful. I had Connolly and Richards last year and they did well for me, so I get the concept. It is just a lot to put into a single ranking number which Dobber seems to figure out how to do; and then i need to consider your points as well. I actually penalize bandaide boys and underachievors by modifying Dobbers list with plus and minus points so I reduce the risk by taking later in the draft. - mike hess Tue, 17 Aug 2010 13:31:17 +0100 http://hockey.dobbersports.com/index.php/columnistsarticles-mainmenu-77/amato/3045-forget-me-not-west-2010#comment-7728 RE: Jerry If you want my list of sleepers, go and read the first article in the guide... There's a major difference between sleepers and underachievers. Sleepers are relatively unknown quantities than are poised to have a boost in production this campaign. Underachievers are players who have high upside, but due to injury, lack of chemistry, coaching benchings... produced at a lower pace than they should have last season. Obviously with everything else there is potential overlap between the two. I have 4 of them myself. Bolland, Upshall, Khabibulin and Lupul. You're missing the point of the article and considering I wrote it fairly loud and clear in the opening paragraph, I don't know how that really came about? The point of the article, is to make you [b]aware of these underachieving players come draft day so that you don't forget them[/b]. Many sites like Yahoo base their automated draft lists on [b]actual[/b] production from the previous season. Those of you who played on Yahoo would know exactly what I'm talking about. Last year I had the exact same concept and listed a few, if you managed to land 1 or 2 you would have gained a heads up on your league. Brad Richards, Paul Stastny, Patrick Sharp, or Visnovsky. So I'm not listing off injured players and calling them sleepers, I'm listing off guys that underachieved so that you can nab the "Brad Richards" of this year. - Ryan Ma Tue, 17 Aug 2010 12:08:55 +0100 http://hockey.dobbersports.com/index.php/columnistsarticles-mainmenu-77/amato/3045-forget-me-not-west-2010#comment-7727 RE: Band-Aid Boys Mike I don't think you or a lot of people out there grasp the concept of band aid boys... I don't think Dobber means them to be a "DO NOT TOUCH" list, I think what he wants you to be is aware of the fact that they are "injury prone" and that if you are taking the leap of faith on them temper your expectations. So how I would approach it is that Havlat is a 0.83 point-per-game player... What I won't do is expect him to play a full 82 games. I might say 70 instead. So heading into the season I might project him to be a 58 point player instead of 68. What you also gotta consider is that band-aid boys are detrimental in H2H leagues because you want consistent production, in Roto leagues they can be golden. You piece together the production of 2 band-aid boys in the same roster slot and you could have one very productive slot. So treat Dobber's band-aid boy list as a "tread carefully" rather than a "red alert, red alert\" - Ryan Ma Tue, 17 Aug 2010 11:55:51 +0100 http://hockey.dobbersports.com/index.php/columnistsarticles-mainmenu-77/amato/3045-forget-me-not-west-2010#comment-7725 Not to be a positive Patty, but this is some good stuff. Always helpful to keep these guys in mind and think about why their point totals ended up the way they did. Like he says, pre-rankings on point output slide them way down the list, so bargains can be had. - Gsus Tue, 17 Aug 2010 09:10:49 +0100 http://hockey.dobbersports.com/index.php/columnistsarticles-mainmenu-77/amato/3045-forget-me-not-west-2010#comment-7723 very good and useful article! Thanks - juggernaut Tue, 17 Aug 2010 08:58:35 +0100 http://hockey.dobbersports.com/index.php/columnistsarticles-mainmenu-77/amato/3045-forget-me-not-west-2010#comment-7720 Not to be a negative Nancy, but this article was pretty weak. List a bunch of injured guys and call them sleepers. - Jerry Tue, 17 Aug 2010 07:42:45 +0100 http://hockey.dobbersports.com/index.php/columnistsarticles-mainmenu-77/amato/3045-forget-me-not-west-2010#comment-7717 Interesting approach, yesterday Dobber puts out the bandaide list and today you tell us not to undervalue many of them? Not sure how to approach the list other than watch camp and early games to see how they turn out. - mike hess Tue, 17 Aug 2010 05:53:54 +0100