Comments for 2010 Mock Offseason - Vancouver Canucks at http://hockey.dobbersports.com , comment 1 to 16 out of 16 comments http://hockey.dobbersports.com Wed, 22 May 2013 02:26:43 +0100 FeedCreator 1.7.3 http://hockey.dobbersports.com/index.php/jeff-angus/2881-2010-mock-offseason-vancouver-canucks#comment-6543 Any chance of S Niedermeyer coming over for a one-year home town discounted swan song? Would love to see him in there for 5Mish or less... Or how about Hamhuis -- how less likely does the Philly move make him to be sign-able as UFA? Failing that, what about Schneider to the Flyers for Coburn? How about a Bieksa for Stafford trade? He could be a nice RW to fill the role that Bernier was supposed to fill... nice writeup - david Sun, 20 Jun 2010 20:50:20 +0100 http://hockey.dobbersports.com/index.php/jeff-angus/2881-2010-mock-offseason-vancouver-canucks#comment-6541 Craig, thanks for the heads up! I am no good w/ draft picks. Always mix them up. I'd start Hodgson at wing until he proves he can play C. Often times it is easier for young centers to get acclimatized to speed of game at wing. Wilson last year w/ NSH, Kesler did it too a few years ago. Hodgson is in a great situation - w/ Sedin and Kesler (and the others), he will have no pressure to produce. Anything more than 15 goals and 30-35 points would be gravy in my estimation. Chad - Will do! Lots of Leaf requests so I'll get to it this week. Hopefully before Burke gets busy... Rossi - thanks! - angus Sun, 20 Jun 2010 17:33:05 +0100 http://hockey.dobbersports.com/index.php/jeff-angus/2881-2010-mock-offseason-vancouver-canucks#comment-6540 Angus, Did you forward this article to Mike Gillis? - Rossi Sun, 20 Jun 2010 16:20:20 +0100 http://hockey.dobbersports.com/index.php/jeff-angus/2881-2010-mock-offseason-vancouver-canucks#comment-6538 Would love to see you do the Toronto Maple Leafs. - Chad Sun, 20 Jun 2010 12:37:19 +0100 http://hockey.dobbersports.com/index.php/jeff-angus/2881-2010-mock-offseason-vancouver-canucks#comment-6537 The 'Nucks don't have a 2010 3rd rounder, that's the one they traded for Alberts. Their also missing a second rounder (Bernier) and don't pick again after #25 until #115. Great and very interesting breakdown otherwise. I really like the Malhotra idea. However, do you think Mgmt/AV would want to impact Hodgson's development by sticking him on the wing rather than his natural centre? I realize he might not make the team and if he does, a good chunk of his early season TOI will be on the PP (similar to how Duchene's year went), but that's a lot to ask of the kid, especially considering the expectations on him and the way last year went (his unhappiness w/ the Canucks)? - Craig K Sun, 20 Jun 2010 11:16:16 +0100 http://hockey.dobbersports.com/index.php/jeff-angus/2881-2010-mock-offseason-vancouver-canucks#comment-6534 now that siedenberg is locked up. it won't be easy, but that doesn't mean it won't happen. - Repent Tokyo Sun, 20 Jun 2010 08:42:59 +0100 http://hockey.dobbersports.com/index.php/jeff-angus/2881-2010-mock-offseason-vancouver-canucks#comment-6531 http://prodtsn.tsn.ca/blogs/scott_cullen/?id=313341 Near the bottom. Five on Five shot differential per 60 minutes. - angus Sun, 20 Jun 2010 07:02:49 +0100 http://hockey.dobbersports.com/index.php/jeff-angus/2881-2010-mock-offseason-vancouver-canucks#comment-6529 The Johnson numbers are at even strength. I'll try and find where I originally came across them. His heart and shot blocking masks his inability to play hockey. As for Alberts, Carolina isn't the only place he could go. Lots of other teams could probably use a 5/6 like him. And for the Bruins trade, Sobotka isn't necessarily cheap. He is an RFA coming off an 800k deal. Hansen is an RFA coming off a 550k deal. I'd say they have similar trade values, slight edge to Sobotka. A 3rd for Hunwick is fair value, especially considering Boston probably wants to shed Hunwick's salary so they can bring back Boychuk as their 6th defenseman. - angus Sun, 20 Jun 2010 06:44:13 +0100 http://hockey.dobbersports.com/index.php/jeff-angus/2881-2010-mock-offseason-vancouver-canucks#comment-6528 i can't see that ever happening, especially for someone like hansen. gillis would have to step up to the plate with a lot more than that, and sobotka is growing into his character role with the B's - plus he is cheap, which is what they need right now. - Repent Tokyo Sun, 20 Jun 2010 06:13:00 +0100 http://hockey.dobbersports.com/index.php/jeff-angus/2881-2010-mock-offseason-vancouver-canucks#comment-6527 they are going with their kids on D, his spot is filled. - Repent Tokyo Sun, 20 Jun 2010 06:11:38 +0100 http://hockey.dobbersports.com/index.php/jeff-angus/2881-2010-mock-offseason-vancouver-canucks#comment-6525 angus- those numbers you quote for Johnson- is that even strength? Because obviously as primarily a PK'er Johnson isnt there to produce shots on net- infact being one of if not thee best forward shotblockers it would be even less, as his focus is blocking and getting the puck out of the zone, rather than checking and taking the puck forward for a short handed opportunity.That being said- anything over $1mil is too much for a 4th line only PK'er who gets hurt frequently. As for Wellwood, I dont think he will be back, but with Hodgsons health issues and the total lack of offense from the projected 4th line-having someone who can slide into a spot on the top 3 lines might be prudent. I like Hansons speed/hustle- but his hands suck. Rypien is good for 1 or 2 highlight goals- but its his fistst that got him to the NHL, Glass is an honest worker-something AV covets. Hordichuk is in AV's doghouse (along with Obrien) and if anyone would take him off the Nucks hands, I think they would have to listen. Same with Bernier, who has had plenty of chances to skate with top players and yet cant seem to produce regularily.Maybe hometown boy Andrew Ladd instead? On D- Bieksa is a frustrating player to watch, his play has regressed,albeit in part due to 2 serious injuries,but the Canucks have alot of similar dmen- good (but not great offensively)and ok (but not great defensively). Ehrhoff and Mitchell were the best of the bunch-but a t this point Sutton over Mitchell would be a good upgrade- and if they could get Hamhuis over Bieksa would also be an upgrade. They have the cash to spend, and would only need a few guys with NHL experience at the the minimum salary to supplement their roster due to the inevitable injuries, as the farm system doesnt have alot of immediate help coming(once Hodgson,Grabner graduate)as Oberg/Schroeder/Sauve need a year in the minors most likely- Shirokov...is a wild card. - Larry Sat, 19 Jun 2010 22:09:11 +0100 http://hockey.dobbersports.com/index.php/jeff-angus/2881-2010-mock-offseason-vancouver-canucks#comment-6524 Kim Johnsson is probably done in the NHL. Good ideas with a vet presence. I like what Malhotra brings, but another would be a good idea. Lots of options with the defense. Gillis has the potential for a great off-season. The Canucks are one of the most attractive teams to play for - great goalie, great city, great foundation. He has lots of cap space. Some valuable young assets should he decide to go for a bigger type of move, etc. Ryan Johnson is a warrior but I wouldn't bring him back for free. He is a liability in all situations. This past season he had the worst shots against/for differential in the entire league. Essentially when he was on the ice, the opposition had more shots against the Canucks than the Canucks had against the opposition to a degree greater than any other player. He is simply a miserable hockey player, which is too bad because he came into Vancouver after a strong season with the Blues. I like Sobotka because he plays a fourth line role now, but he is also young and has some upside. Ray Whitney would be solid but he is going to get overpaid. On the decline and his numbers were inflated with a ton of PP time with the 'Canes that he wouldn't see with the Canucks. The Canucks "window\" is probably the next 2-3 years. I see them peaking once Hodgson and Schroeder are ready for top six roles... it would free up Raymond/Grabner to be trade bait. - angus Sat, 19 Jun 2010 19:29:15 +0100 http://hockey.dobbersports.com/index.php/jeff-angus/2881-2010-mock-offseason-vancouver-canucks#comment-6523 Like the role Madden had with the Hawks. - Budde Sat, 19 Jun 2010 19:19:10 +0100 http://hockey.dobbersports.com/index.php/jeff-angus/2881-2010-mock-offseason-vancouver-canucks#comment-6522 Jeff, this is one of the best engagements with the Canucks roster I have ever read. Bravo! The one area that you didn't address, and it's an area that I think is crucial to the future success of the team, is leadership. I think most of the parts are there but when they stumbled against the Hawks, there was no one to stand up in the locker room or do something on the ice that would take the team to the next level of intensity. Someone like a Recchi or Whitney or, erm, Arnott who are steady, experienced veterans would solidify the team and add that playoff leadership they lack. - Budde Sat, 19 Jun 2010 19:18:18 +0100 http://hockey.dobbersports.com/index.php/jeff-angus/2881-2010-mock-offseason-vancouver-canucks#comment-6521 Not sure about that Boston trade... Humwick and Sobotka would cost more then just Hansen and a 3rd to me. And I'm not sure I see the need for the Canucks to get him either. He goes from being buried in Boston to being slightly less buried in Vancouver - behind H. Sedin, Kesler and Hodgson (and potentially Malholtra). He doesn't really play on the wing and would have difficulty securing any kind of offensive role with the team. I agree that Boston will trade him, but he needs to go somewhere where he has a chance to get real ice time to get maximum return on him - and I don't see that place as being Vancouver. Perhaps Atlanta or Columbus would be better destinations. Overall solid proposal though. Hansen seems to be permanently and unjustifiably stuck in Vigneault's doghouse, and so doesn't seem to have much of a future with the Canucks. He does have value and potential and so trading him is a good idea I think. Those contract proposals are reasonable and a conservative estimate could put them at even less - I could see Michalek signing for under $4 million and Raymond for $2.5-2.8 million. I'm unsure that Mitchell will be with the Canucks this fall though. He's still not 100% and will have a tough time adjusting to playing his same style of hockey again. It's impressive if he manages to play another NHL game in his career at this point! I personally think he'll get his career back on track again, but I don't think he'll be signing with the Canucks before July 1st. Perhaps he'll pull a Sundin (with a legitimate excuse) and sign later in the year. In fact, if I had to guess, that's what I think he'll do. I like Michalek but I don't think he'll be coming to Vancouver - I'm sure he's very attracted by the chance to go play in Ottawa with his brother. If we get him, great - but if we don't, which is quite likely, we need to look at other options. I think Kim Johnsson, Mark Eaton and Andy Sutton are decent, under-the-radar options to consider. They will likely all sign for fairly cheap and can play solid defensive hockey, which is what the Canucks are currently lacking on the back end. Sutton especially brings some more grit to the lineup (while also actually being able to play, unlike the last guy the Canucks traded for). I may not be an expert, but I think any of these guys would add some stability to the Canucks D-core for a cheaper price then Michalek and would be more readily signable (less of a bidding war required). I think the Canucks should also consider bringing Johnson back, provided he is willing to take a pay cut (under $1 million for sure). A contract in the $0.7-0.8 million would be reasonable. Johnson, despite having a bit of an off-year in 2009-10, is still serviceable and can bolster any PK with his fearless shot-blocking and solid faceoff abilities. There are a lot of options to consider here, and I think Gillis will have plenty of opportunity to turn this team into an even bigger contender for 2010-11 if he plays his cards right. The next 2-3 years is the prime time for the Canucks to go all-in and make a push for the Cup. - Canuckk Sat, 19 Jun 2010 19:07:05 +0100 http://hockey.dobbersports.com/index.php/jeff-angus/2881-2010-mock-offseason-vancouver-canucks#comment-6520 it's hard to predict fair trades when it is involving your team, but i didn't see one trade that seemed lopsided in favour of the canucks. good job angus! perhaps i should write an article for the leafs...but somehow i know i'd predict the leafs land kovalchuk and trade kaberle for richards...yea, i'll just stick to dreaming! - praba Sat, 19 Jun 2010 18:04:08 +0100