Comments for Vladimir Tarasenko: the best Russian prospect in the draft? at http://hockey.dobbersports.com , comment 1 to 5 out of 5 comments http://hockey.dobbersports.com Sun, 19 May 2013 21:43:12 +0100 FeedCreator 1.7.3 http://hockey.dobbersports.com/index.php/columnistsarticles-mainmenu-77/17-archives-other-articles/2753-vladimir-tarasenko-the-best-russian-prospect-in-the-draft#comment-5759 Sorry for the late replies. @Jon Thanks for your long comment and keep on reading my articles. I agree with some of the things you wrote, but there is a big difference between Cherepanov and Kabanov. Cherepanov has never ever caused a problem. @Brent Surely Burmistrov is a great player, but I think Tarasenko had a better career so far. He is a pro player, Burmistrov is a junior player. @Seadawg Tarasenko, Kabanov, Burmistrov, Kuznetsov, Galiev, Kitsyn is my order. We'll see. @lokguin Surely Tarasenko will come, he just said he's going to spend 1 further year in the KHL and I think it's good for his development. [url]http://www.russianhockeyfans.com/prospects/vladimir-tarasenko-im-under-contract-for-the-next-season-129.html[/url] Thanks to anyone who reads my stuff. Much appreciated. See you next week with a new article! If you have any wishes of players I should write about, leave me a message. - Alessandro Seren Rosso Wed, 28 Apr 2010 06:23:21 +0100 http://hockey.dobbersports.com/index.php/columnistsarticles-mainmenu-77/17-archives-other-articles/2753-vladimir-tarasenko-the-best-russian-prospect-in-the-draft#comment-5644 Ra-Ra-Rasp...nevermind, I won't go there!:D Russian players all want to come here and be stars, no doubt. But I think that there is a lot of pressure on the oversell, and standard robotic answers. GMs and scouts have complained about this at the combines for years. All prospects are giving similar answers. I think that players should be honest to themselves and to the teams so that they get drafted accordingly. Yes, it is nice to be drafted by the current top teams, but that does not speak well for getting an actual shot any time soon. It is my belief that agents pressure these kids to get drafted as high as possible for presumed guarenteed shots or contracts, when in actuall fact many won't get a contract for at least 1 or two more years depending on age. Rather than being honest and saying, "I want to go to a team where I will make a difference and get a shot at ice time immediately" they say "I would be happy to play anywhere" which is not true. I doubt very much that a guy projected to go high says "I want to be drafted to a contender like Detroit wit a proven system" because he is not going to see ice time any day soon. Sad truth is that these kids are "coached" (sorry for the pun/cliché, thats the term) to say all the "right" things and not be honest or be themselves. If they were honest then they may fall a bit in the draft, but get drafted by a team that is perhaps a better fit for them, and on which they get a shot. Russians included. I think that Russians, especially those that have played in the KHL, want/expect to get a long-look and no leash. After all they are already professionals. So it is hard for them to accept not being able to take the next step or come over with recognized creds. Like a guy switching unions, and not having seniority recognized. In fact that is really what is happening in a sense. Russian players, especially those drafted high, expect to be played extensively. It is my belief that teams with actual systems in place (like DET) tell them, "yeah, your drafted but were not gonna look at you again for two years!". It is a simpletons approach, but I gotta see it, and I would suspect that is why teams that seem to draft ethno-centricly do this for a reason. I think Kabanov will be steal for whoever takes him late, if they give him an honest shot. I am just speculating that players like Filatov and such are promised the world by the guy on the left, and slapped in the face with reality by the guy on the right. One of the saddest draft moments I have seen was Chereponov (R.I.P.) sitting there pick after pick. It is too bad we never got to see that kid. Kabanov's drop because of "intangables" is a similar situation. The kid has skills and knows it, and wants to ply his trade. Others have preconceived "pecking orders" that he doesn't feel obliged to follow. To me that is holding the kid back. OTT doing that to Havlat is a good example in the bigs. I know that I am blurring a few situations, but honestly I have watched some of these situations and held my nose. This is not dealing in good faith. Man I am all over the place tonight! - Jon Dey Wed, 21 Apr 2010 13:29:17 +0100 http://hockey.dobbersports.com/index.php/columnistsarticles-mainmenu-77/17-archives-other-articles/2753-vladimir-tarasenko-the-best-russian-prospect-in-the-draft#comment-5638 I'm no Russian prospect expert, but I have watched young Burminstrov play on many occasions with the Colts and his offensive creativity is impressive. BKL - Brent K. Lemon Wed, 21 Apr 2010 08:15:07 +0100 http://hockey.dobbersports.com/index.php/columnistsarticles-mainmenu-77/17-archives-other-articles/2753-vladimir-tarasenko-the-best-russian-prospect-in-the-draft#comment-5636 The problem with Tarasenko has always been a concern that he won't leave Russia. I think he might still go high in the draft, but there are question marks about him just as much as there are question marks about Kabanov. Different question marks, but they are there. Personally, I think Burmistrov will be the first Russian taken in the draft, unless Tarasenko can convince a team during the interviews that he is committed to NA (though we have heard all that before from the likes of Radulov, Filatov, Zherdev, etc.). It is going to be an exciting (and unpredictable) draft for the Russians with many interesting name, including Kuznetsov, Galiev and Kitsyn to go along with Tarasenko, Kabanov, and Burmistrov. - SeaDawg Wed, 21 Apr 2010 08:01:12 +0100 http://hockey.dobbersports.com/index.php/columnistsarticles-mainmenu-77/17-archives-other-articles/2753-vladimir-tarasenko-the-best-russian-prospect-in-the-draft#comment-5634 what is your opinion on whether tarasenko will come over to play in NA? if so when do you think? and will he be willing to play in the ahl? - lokguin Wed, 21 Apr 2010 07:37:15 +0100