Comments for The 2012 NHL Draft – Keeper Leaguers Beware at http://hockey.dobbersports.com , comment 1 to 10 out of 10 comments http://hockey.dobbersports.com Thu, 23 May 2013 16:08:53 +0100 FeedCreator 1.7.3 http://hockey.dobbersports.com/index.php/darryl-dobbs/2546-the-2012-nhl-draft-keeper-leaguers-beware#comment-4229 I meant to say that I am doubtful. I assure you that I am not dubious! hahaha I guess there's no way to edit a comment? - Kudelski's Krushers Mon, 01 Feb 2010 15:02:12 +0100 http://hockey.dobbersports.com/index.php/darryl-dobbs/2546-the-2012-nhl-draft-keeper-leaguers-beware#comment-4228 While it is obviously possible that a Canadian court would reach a different conclusion than the American courts, it is highly unlikely. First of all, the league is based out of the United States and that would weigh into the determination of which country's law to use (even if the suit were in a Canadian court, the court can be compelled to use American law). Second, while not technically binding, American jurisprudence is persuasive. That is, our courts frequently consider American decisions and apply their legal reasoning to Canadian law. Seeing as the only real jurisprudence in this area of law comes from the United States, this would almost be a given. Third, and the most important of all, a case grounded in Canadian law would in my view have lower odds of succeeding. The Americans, being the free-market economists that they are, have very robust anti-trust legislation (i.e. the Sherman Act). Conversely, our Competition Act is a less powerful regulatory tool. Notwithstanding the relative strengths of the legislation, the ENFORCEMENT of competition law in Canada is far weaker than in the US. We Canadians simply do not deem competitive markets to be a national priority (likely because the majority of our industries have historically been oligopolies). If our law won't even protect consumers from getting screwed by Bell and Rogers, I am dubious as to the likelihood of it protecting an NHL player from an agreement signed by the players' association. All that said, I think it should. But that's another issue entirely! - Kudelski's Krushers Mon, 01 Feb 2010 15:00:17 +0100 http://hockey.dobbersports.com/index.php/darryl-dobbs/2546-the-2012-nhl-draft-keeper-leaguers-beware#comment-4218 Based on Saturday's game versus the leafs, I dont see Henrik dropping off any in production, the Sedin's are going to feast on Eastern teams. - mick Mon, 01 Feb 2010 09:13:28 +0100 http://hockey.dobbersports.com/index.php/darryl-dobbs/2546-the-2012-nhl-draft-keeper-leaguers-beware#comment-4202 Awakening - all we have to go on in any sport are small sample sizes. That's all we can base our conclusions on. But if I were to base it on the 50-game sample size that is this season, I would say that Henrik is producing far far over his head anyway and I'm just looking for an excuse to slow this transport truck down! Kudelski - any lawsuit like this would be tried in Canadian Court. We're much bigger whiners up here, trust me. - Dobber Sun, 31 Jan 2010 15:04:32 +0100 http://hockey.dobbersports.com/index.php/darryl-dobbs/2546-the-2012-nhl-draft-keeper-leaguers-beware#comment-4197 I should add that Clarett just affirmed the current state of the law. The real precedent decision was rendered by the USSC in Brown v Pro Football Inc (1997). - Kudelski's Krushers Sun, 31 Jan 2010 09:58:52 +0100 http://hockey.dobbersports.com/index.php/darryl-dobbs/2546-the-2012-nhl-draft-keeper-leaguers-beware#comment-4196 Hey Dobber, I just finished up the sports law component of my degree, where I chose to focus on the intersection between labour law and sports leagues. First and foremost, such caps ARE perfectly legal. It seems unfair from a freedom of contract perspective but one has to understand that the legal tradition that underpins most of our social/economic contracts in society does NOT apply to sports leagues. The United States Court of Appeal has ruled very clearly on this issue of age caps. The most recent decision was rendered by now Supreme Court Justice Sotomayor in Clarett v NFL (2004). Leave to appeal to the USSC was denied. The Cole's notes version of the decisions: as long as any restriction/requirement is agreed to by both the league and the players' union, the courts are not going to interfere. If you would like more information on the subject, I would be more than happy to discuss and/or share my paper with you. - Kudelski's Krushers Sun, 31 Jan 2010 09:51:12 +0100 http://hockey.dobbersports.com/index.php/darryl-dobbs/2546-the-2012-nhl-draft-keeper-leaguers-beware#comment-4189 Dobber-- Absolutely. I understand you don't think he's going to drop below 1 ppg. Who knows if it'll be 15, 17, 19 in this stretch. My point is simply that the analysis leading to you--and many others--to say that Henrik will be more in the 1-1.2 ppg vs. 1.5+ doesn't hold up for me. That's not to say that he won't be 1-1.2 ppg, but I can't see the reasoning when it essentially involves a very small sample size and a lot of games without Daniel. I respect the "my gut tells me" or "I would bet on" argument more than the stats argument in this case. - Awakening Sun, 31 Jan 2010 08:03:22 +0100 http://hockey.dobbersports.com/index.php/darryl-dobbs/2546-the-2012-nhl-draft-keeper-leaguers-beware#comment-4188 The only thing I don't like about saying that Vancouver and/or the Sedins productivity will decline on the road is that the average includes early in the year when the team was sucking it up. CBC kept going on about the Nucks being horrible on the road which is true to date, but the team is better now than before so I don't think we can use their early season record as that much of a predictor. Henrik may see his scoring drop some but I would be more inclined to split the difference and say 17pts. - InForAPenny Sun, 31 Jan 2010 07:36:55 +0100 http://hockey.dobbersports.com/index.php/darryl-dobbs/2546-the-2012-nhl-draft-keeper-leaguers-beware#comment-4183 Awakening - I'm not saying Henrik will suck. I am saying that instead of getting 19 points in the next 13 games (current pace), he will only get 15 points in 13 games (road pace). That's not a slap in the face, and that's not insulting Henrik. Don't read too much into this. But I would bet 50 bucks that he is closer to 15 points than he is to 19 points. - Dobber Sun, 31 Jan 2010 07:11:01 +0100 http://hockey.dobbersports.com/index.php/darryl-dobbs/2546-the-2012-nhl-draft-keeper-leaguers-beware#comment-4182 I have seen this Sedin home/road argument all over the net. I don't see it. Henrik is 1.54 on the road with games that Daniel has played. They played 10 on the road without Daniel and Henrik scored 9. Not to mention--this isn't a 14 game road trip. It's an 8 game trip, followed by two weeks at home [u]in Vancouver[/u] during the Olympics, and then a 6 game trip. I was close to trading Henrik based on reports like this, but decided against it with this further reflection. - Awakening Sun, 31 Jan 2010 07:09:31 +0100