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			<description>The rest of the league would flip. - Rob Forrest</description>
			<pubDate>Thu, 26 Nov 2009 20:34:05 +0100</pubDate>
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			<description>I really like the idea, it's far out and amazing! Not sure anyone in my leagues would be down for it. The only issue is that this could border on the line of collusion. You could potentially arrange a time share that would throw off the balance of a keeper league for one season and I could see a lot of people having issues with it. - steve laidlaw</description>
			<pubDate>Wed, 25 Nov 2009 13:46:13 +0100</pubDate>
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			<title>PTBNL??</title>
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			<description>steve,
 the player to be named later is done and agreed on before the trade and is complete after the desired out come is determined.

for example.(NHL)

if you trade for a UFA as a part of the deal include a clause that will send another asset(PTBNL)this player(S) are already agreed upon who goes usually is determined by 2 things if the new team is able to sign the UFA and the distance the teams goes in the playoffs when hossa was traded to PIT they could have done this clause and recived a better player if hossa re-signed.

so in terms of fantasy hockey... this is a pretty shaddy deal as you are really renting the player and then completeing the deal after the season and using both players to your avantage this will soon make alot of fantasy leauges very un compettive - Oilers rock 99</description>
			<pubDate>Wed, 25 Nov 2009 11:43:36 +0100</pubDate>
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			<title>NO WAY!!!</title>
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			<description>fantasy hockey is alreasdy time consuming enough, all kinda of reports / web sites / scheduals / matchups to already consider. If your a normal person who works a full time job, and may have a family the time for fantasy hockey is already limmited. keep this in mind before you cloud your pool with more ways the best 2 GM's can take avantage of the rest. keep it fun it is suppose to be a hobby not a second job!!

And for the record this is more about the best gm.s gaining more avantage over the weaker guys/gals

Keep it simple!! - Oilers rock 99</description>
			<pubDate>Wed, 25 Nov 2009 11:34:26 +0100</pubDate>
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			<description>Crazy thoughts. I was just thinking of this the other day when procuring a very complex trade in which we were literally inches away either way from making a deal. Don't like the &quot;timeshare&quot; name as more likely this is a &quot;loan&quot; such as they do in soccer, AND actually... in hockey too. (See: filatov) Now it isn't the same league, but in some ways the idea exists in hockey.

That being said, aside from a gentleman's agreement, there currently is no way to enact this contract. In my situation, I had an injury. So if I were to propose the deal it would be to have &quot;x&quot; defenseman until mine was back(3 months), then guarantee to the other party, that I would NOT trade &quot;x&quot; defenseman to another team before that time, and ensure that if he wanted him back we would swap back players or make a related trade involving &quot;x&quot; defenseman.

When you do this, obviously the team being loaned the player must give an extra piece. Whether it be a 10th round pick or what have you, since the player being given to you is not going to be a remaining part of your team, it will be less than the full value of the player. How much less will depend on the length of the loan.

Of course it will get crazy when you start having multiple loaned players on your team, questions of collusion will be brought up and bring more headaches to most leagues, but I'm sure this goes on whether we know about it or not. - Tom Nguyen</description>
			<pubDate>Wed, 25 Nov 2009 10:00:57 +0100</pubDate>
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			<description>In a way, this is done in the NHL today.  The infamous &quot;player to be named later&quot; is exactly what we are talking about isn't it?  The difference? the typical PTBNL is not an Ovechkin-calibre player.  I like it.  Definitely outside the box thinking... - Steve</description>
			<pubDate>Wed, 25 Nov 2009 08:28:16 +0100</pubDate>
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			<description>I really don't like this idea.  IMO, the goal of a hockey pool is to mimic the real life experience of a GM.  The further a pool tends to veer from real life hockey, the more inclined I am to stay away from that pool.  For example, I never have and never will join a pool where assists are valued at more than 1 point, or where goals are valued at more than 1 point.  Likewise, I would never join a pool that optioned players like stocks.  It isn't done in the NHL.  Just my opinion.  - adam</description>
			<pubDate>Wed, 25 Nov 2009 07:11:21 +0100</pubDate>
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			<title>Injuries?</title>
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			<description>So, let's say we go ahead with this Thornton-Ovechkin trade. What happens if Ovechkin gets injured in the mean time? I would be very unconfortable trading for unknown quantities like that. - Jasmin Douville</description>
			<pubDate>Wed, 25 Nov 2009 06:53:34 +0100</pubDate>
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