Comments for Fantasy Indicators of Success 2009: Defenseman at http://hockey.dobbersports.com , comment 1 to 18 out of 18 comments http://hockey.dobbersports.com Wed, 22 May 2013 12:47:04 +0100 FeedCreator 1.7.3 http://hockey.dobbersports.com/index.php/columnistsarticles-mainmenu-77/amato/2355-fantasy-indicators-of-success-2009-defenseman#comment-2528 The Kings organization is loaded with young offensive-minded defensemen (Doughty, JJ, Drewiske, Hickey and Teubert) but sorely lacking in veteran leadership. Thus Quincey, who is a bit older than those five, was expendable. The Quincey for Ryan Smyth deal was a great trade for both teams and that deal is a big reason why both teams are off to tremendous starts. - O. Oglethorpe Thu, 12 Nov 2009 10:34:45 +0100 http://hockey.dobbersports.com/index.php/columnistsarticles-mainmenu-77/amato/2355-fantasy-indicators-of-success-2009-defenseman#comment-2509 RE: East Yeah I dunno what's going on with Russ... I'm guessing he's probably been a bit busy with his "real life." Cause he hasn't written one in a while. To be fair these articles do take a while to research up. It took me around 2 and a half hours to get this one done, and not a lot of people have the time to put that much effort in unless they're getting paid for it. But thanks for all of the positive comments. Receiving them certainly makes my job easier when trying to get these articles written and knowing that they're getting read/appreciated. Stayed tuned next week. - Ryan Ma Wed, 11 Nov 2009 23:52:15 +0100 http://hockey.dobbersports.com/index.php/columnistsarticles-mainmenu-77/amato/2355-fantasy-indicators-of-success-2009-defenseman#comment-2505 Amazing article- thoroughly enjoyed the breakdown. Totally agree in regards to sog separarting the meek from the herd in terms of truly quality d-men. I dont even leave comments here often- but I LOVED this article. Any chance you can twist your counterpart in the Easts arm into doing one of these??? - Karlos El Taco Piquante Wed, 11 Nov 2009 10:57:37 +0100 http://hockey.dobbersports.com/index.php/columnistsarticles-mainmenu-77/amato/2355-fantasy-indicators-of-success-2009-defenseman#comment-2502 Ah, waiver wire. Thank You! - Ed Dolle Wed, 11 Nov 2009 07:42:00 +0100 http://hockey.dobbersports.com/index.php/columnistsarticles-mainmenu-77/amato/2355-fantasy-indicators-of-success-2009-defenseman#comment-2497 Yes true enough, a PPG is not going to happen for Wisniewski either. - doulos Tue, 10 Nov 2009 11:16:39 +0100 http://hockey.dobbersports.com/index.php/columnistsarticles-mainmenu-77/amato/2355-fantasy-indicators-of-success-2009-defenseman#comment-2495 RE: Nuck d-men Yeah it'll be interesting to see what happens. They haven't really had the full deck of cards to play with, so we haven't see what they plan on doing once everyone is healthy. The main thing for me is that they're all quality d-men, not like a lot of the other teams where they'll have 1 or 2 main go-to guys and 4 support guys. So they're points are going to be spread out and it'd end up being a situation where you could just pick the names out of the hat regarding whos going to pick up the points each contest. And from a fantasy standpoint that's not going to be ideal. - Ryan Ma Tue, 10 Nov 2009 10:45:00 +0100 http://hockey.dobbersports.com/index.php/columnistsarticles-mainmenu-77/amato/2355-fantasy-indicators-of-success-2009-defenseman#comment-2494 RE: Wissy I was kinda on the fence with Wissy, the thing that sold me on selling him is that he's on a point-per-game pace. I honestly don't think that he's a 82 point defenseman, which means that his value is higher right now than it will be at the end of the year. Which is why I labeled him as a sell candidate. - Ryan Ma Tue, 10 Nov 2009 10:40:43 +0100 http://hockey.dobbersports.com/index.php/columnistsarticles-mainmenu-77/amato/2355-fantasy-indicators-of-success-2009-defenseman#comment-2493 RE: WW WW means waiver wire material, probably shouldn't be owned in typical fantasy leagues. - Ryan Ma Tue, 10 Nov 2009 10:37:20 +0100 http://hockey.dobbersports.com/index.php/columnistsarticles-mainmenu-77/amato/2355-fantasy-indicators-of-success-2009-defenseman#comment-2492 RE: Team A vs Team B I didn't mean to compare the players on a one to one basis real-life example. What I was trying to illustrate is that if you own three quality d-men it pretty much negates owning three quality offensive players. Even if we were using your example, and you look at the overall stats, it's pretty darn close too. If it wasn't for the extra 3 assists, Team A would actually be leading the overall stats. Basically what I'm trying to say is that we all know that [b]D makes a difference[/b], just that some people didn't think that it would be to the extent of canceling out owning Kopitar, Ovechkin and Gaborik. - Ryan Ma Tue, 10 Nov 2009 10:36:45 +0100 http://hockey.dobbersports.com/index.php/columnistsarticles-mainmenu-77/amato/2355-fantasy-indicators-of-success-2009-defenseman#comment-2491 RE: Status Sorry I mentioned it last week, but didn't mention it this week. It's all based on 1 year leagues or fantasy value in keeper leagues for this year only... - Ryan Ma Tue, 10 Nov 2009 10:29:21 +0100 http://hockey.dobbersports.com/index.php/columnistsarticles-mainmenu-77/amato/2355-fantasy-indicators-of-success-2009-defenseman#comment-2490 RE: Limited Keeper D-men I think it depends, players in the top 10 like your Green's and Boyle's are must keeps... anything after that I think it's kind of pointless because most fall around the same range in production. Generally speaking year after year, there tends to be surprises, Doughty, Demers, that you can afford to take a gamble on D. So I would probably say save your keeper spots for more up and coming offensive players than D. - Ryan Ma Tue, 10 Nov 2009 10:28:21 +0100 http://hockey.dobbersports.com/index.php/columnistsarticles-mainmenu-77/amato/2355-fantasy-indicators-of-success-2009-defenseman#comment-2489 With the parity of offense available in vancouver, I'd be wary of both Salo and Schneider- mainly due to their fraility, and if they do stay healthy- then that may increase the chance that Bieksa and/or Rome play up front, you wont see much offense from Rome- but Bieksa hasnt looked out of place on the wing. If the Nucks get healthy up front then this experiment is likely shortlived. Daniel Sedin should be back soon - Larry Tue, 10 Nov 2009 08:38:51 +0100 http://hockey.dobbersports.com/index.php/columnistsarticles-mainmenu-77/amato/2355-fantasy-indicators-of-success-2009-defenseman#comment-2486 Interesting analysis and in general I agree. Going to have to part ways with you on Wisniewski though. The guy has produced with a low level of PP his entire career and if he ever starts getting more PP time then watch out. - doulos Tue, 10 Nov 2009 08:01:40 +0100 http://hockey.dobbersports.com/index.php/columnistsarticles-mainmenu-77/amato/2355-fantasy-indicators-of-success-2009-defenseman#comment-2485 I'm sorry, but what does WW stand for?:'( - Ed Dolle Tue, 10 Nov 2009 07:57:29 +0100 http://hockey.dobbersports.com/index.php/columnistsarticles-mainmenu-77/amato/2355-fantasy-indicators-of-success-2009-defenseman#comment-2483 Great article with lots of info. However, I'd like to point out that your team A/team B comparison only makes sense if half your fantasy team is made of d-men, which typically isn't the case (more like 6 F 4 D 2 G), ie. your team A vs. team B should have 3 F and 2 D, not 3 D. If we dropped Chara from team A and Hannan from team B, the stats would be: Team A: 22 - 45 - 31 - 62 - 24 - 158 Team B: 40 - 48 - 20 - 50 - 36 - 208 Now the lead of forward-heavy team B is clearer, and would be clearer still if there wasn't a +13 O'Reilly as a forward on team A (or 2 PIM-light guys in Kopitar and Gaborik on team B). - barneyg Tue, 10 Nov 2009 07:42:58 +0100 http://hockey.dobbersports.com/index.php/columnistsarticles-mainmenu-77/amato/2355-fantasy-indicators-of-success-2009-defenseman#comment-2482 Also, are your Buy/Sell advisements based on 1 year leagues or keepers? I find it hard to believe now is a good time to sell any of the Detroit Dmen. Do you expect Detroit to not pick it up this season (from a fantasy defenseman perspective)? - Andrew Tue, 10 Nov 2009 07:33:36 +0100 http://hockey.dobbersports.com/index.php/columnistsarticles-mainmenu-77/amato/2355-fantasy-indicators-of-success-2009-defenseman#comment-2481 Great article, hope to see this same thing at least once a month per conference. Outside of the top 10 or so Dmen, they are very undervalued, and it's a great place to grab the edge in your league. Ryan, where do you stand on keeping Dmen in a limited keeper league? - Andrew Tue, 10 Nov 2009 07:30:00 +0100 http://hockey.dobbersports.com/index.php/columnistsarticles-mainmenu-77/amato/2355-fantasy-indicators-of-success-2009-defenseman#comment-2479 Thanks for the Article - Ballsakic Tue, 10 Nov 2009 07:15:32 +0100