Comments for Top 100 Roto Players - Preseason 2009 at http://hockey.dobbersports.com , comment 1 to 20 out of 20 comments http://hockey.dobbersports.com Tue, 21 May 2013 10:37:15 +0100 FeedCreator 1.7.3 http://hockey.dobbersports.com/index.php/columnistsarticles-mainmenu-77/17-archives-other-articles/2300-top-100-roto-players-october-2009#comment-2019 Just FYI. Kunitz, Souray, and Ribeiro all listed twice. - tedduf Sun, 18 Oct 2009 15:49:21 +0100 http://hockey.dobbersports.com/index.php/columnistsarticles-mainmenu-77/17-archives-other-articles/2300-top-100-roto-players-october-2009#comment-1967 The Hockey News projected Jokinen @ 74 pts (35G) ESPN @ 86 pts (40G) The Score @ 82 pts (32G) McKeens @ 71 pts (31G) Looking at his history when he has produced at that level, Jokinen has always put up large shot totals, close to 80 PIMs and 25-30 PP points. If he returns to a + player that is a SIX category player, how is that ridiculous? A ranking can fluctuate drastically on the +/- category alone. These ranking are based on an average of the projections of SIX mainstream sources, It is a consensus of what the fantasy world projects, hardly lacking in common sense. I didn't pull the numbers out of my ass. As for Sedin, his projections when revised because of injury dropped him out of the top 100, just like Marian Hossa's projection leaves him at 97 when he is a top 20 player. - Chris Boyle Fri, 16 Oct 2009 05:41:27 +0100 http://hockey.dobbersports.com/index.php/columnistsarticles-mainmenu-77/17-archives-other-articles/2300-top-100-roto-players-october-2009#comment-1954 Also, where's Daniel Sedin? You've got his bro. - alwaysfour20 Thu, 15 Oct 2009 18:56:40 +0100 http://hockey.dobbersports.com/index.php/columnistsarticles-mainmenu-77/17-archives-other-articles/2300-top-100-roto-players-october-2009#comment-1953 Ummm.... Jokinen at 13? Ahead of Iginla, Kovalchuk, Heatley? I can understand that you just based this all on projections and Jokinen gets the shots and PIM, but this article could have used a bit more common sense.... I don't know any prognosticators who had him ranked that high. - alwaysfour20 Thu, 15 Oct 2009 18:53:21 +0100 http://hockey.dobbersports.com/index.php/columnistsarticles-mainmenu-77/17-archives-other-articles/2300-top-100-roto-players-october-2009#comment-1951 interesting list but I would only use last season as a guide for full season leagues, in my h2h weekly 8 team league I grabbed Kopitar in the league 9th round and Morrow slipped to the 10th round. I reached for Gaborick (3) and Hossa (5) and basically punted PIMS which have fallen off since the good old goon 70's. Man Tiger williams would be a fantasy stud in this type of league eh? - Hardy Berger Thu, 15 Oct 2009 14:50:42 +0100 http://hockey.dobbersports.com/index.php/columnistsarticles-mainmenu-77/17-archives-other-articles/2300-top-100-roto-players-october-2009#comment-1946 after I stopped [b]laughing[/b] from the very first line in the Ovechkin overview, I finished the article and have to say, kudos. Great piece and really helpful. - kriskooz Thu, 15 Oct 2009 09:50:12 +0100 http://hockey.dobbersports.com/index.php/columnistsarticles-mainmenu-77/17-archives-other-articles/2300-top-100-roto-players-october-2009#comment-1945 Very nice list, although I must point out one glaring anomaly. David Perron at #63. That one just doesn't make any sense. - jason Thu, 15 Oct 2009 09:31:49 +0100 http://hockey.dobbersports.com/index.php/columnistsarticles-mainmenu-77/17-archives-other-articles/2300-top-100-roto-players-october-2009#comment-1943 Greg, you are looking at things through hindsight after a quick start. This list was based on pre-season projections as Dobber and I thought it would be better to offer that instead of a 6 game sample. Last season Kopitar ranked 47th in goals, 56th in assists, dead last in +/- and 400th in PIMs. Gomez had more shots, a better +/- and double his PIMs. His point differential in regards to Kopitar was negligible in terms of his roto ranking. Kopitar's -17 acts as a drag on your team and can cost you the +/- category on his own, add in his lack of PIMs and he was not a great roto player in 2009. If he registers a solid +/- in 2010, then his value rises. In Rotisserie pools guys like Hartnell and Backes provide value because they lead the PIMs categories and are solid enough in other categories not to wipe you out. They are the equivalent to a premier scorer who has no PIMs. - Chris Boyle Thu, 15 Oct 2009 08:30:40 +0100 http://hockey.dobbersports.com/index.php/columnistsarticles-mainmenu-77/17-archives-other-articles/2300-top-100-roto-players-october-2009#comment-1942 Gomez projected for around +3 and 275 shots, Kopitar around -15 and 200 shots. Gomez also with higher PIM. That makes Gomez clearly more valuable despite a few less goals but a few more assists because that -15 is a killer when the average is approximately zero. - Carl Nussey Thu, 15 Oct 2009 08:28:37 +0100 http://hockey.dobbersports.com/index.php/columnistsarticles-mainmenu-77/17-archives-other-articles/2300-top-100-roto-players-october-2009#comment-1940 Regardless of all categories, someone needs to explain how Scott Gomez is more valuable than Anze Kopitar...just don't get it. You can add Milan Michalek to that list also. I am not factoring in Anze's quick start...just the fact that there are guys listed that are not even in the same ballpark as him. - Greg Hambly Thu, 15 Oct 2009 08:08:58 +0100 http://hockey.dobbersports.com/index.php/columnistsarticles-mainmenu-77/17-archives-other-articles/2300-top-100-roto-players-october-2009#comment-1939 Chris, send it to me and I'll update it. I post the articles on Thurs/Fri/Sat. - Jeff Angus Thu, 15 Oct 2009 07:50:39 +0100 http://hockey.dobbersports.com/index.php/columnistsarticles-mainmenu-77/17-archives-other-articles/2300-top-100-roto-players-october-2009#comment-1938 Just realized after your comment that the second 50 I sent was from the skaters list only. I have resent the bottom 50 which includes Lundqvist, Fleury, Backstrom, Hiller, Nabokov, Miller and Kiprusoff. - Chris Boyle Thu, 15 Oct 2009 07:42:35 +0100 http://hockey.dobbersports.com/index.php/columnistsarticles-mainmenu-77/17-archives-other-articles/2300-top-100-roto-players-october-2009#comment-1937 There is an even bigger omission here. I will give you a clue. This guy has started his career with 30+wins, .917 SV%, 2.31 GAA. HENRIK LUNQVIST! - Alex Thu, 15 Oct 2009 06:52:48 +0100 http://hockey.dobbersports.com/index.php/columnistsarticles-mainmenu-77/17-archives-other-articles/2300-top-100-roto-players-october-2009#comment-1936 "Better to miss low and claim ignorance, then to miss high and have you remember it." - Jeff Angus Thu, 15 Oct 2009 06:47:02 +0100 http://hockey.dobbersports.com/index.php/columnistsarticles-mainmenu-77/17-archives-other-articles/2300-top-100-roto-players-october-2009#comment-1935 This list is for regular Roto leagues where the categories are Goals, Assists, Shots, Specialty goals, PIM, +/-. Accordingly, getting 90 points is somewhat meaningless as that is only one category of many. Kopitar does not make a list like this because he does not shoot or get PIM and only had 9 Specialty goals last year. Even this year he only has 11 shots and no PIM in the first 5 games so he might barely make the list when it comes out based on results rather than just projections. - Carl Nussey Thu, 15 Oct 2009 04:33:41 +0100 http://hockey.dobbersports.com/index.php/columnistsarticles-mainmenu-77/17-archives-other-articles/2300-top-100-roto-players-october-2009#comment-1934 Like I said in the intro, this list is based on an average of the projections of all the major fantasy publications. Six in total. If Kopitar is not on it, it is because all the main fantasy prognisticators did not see fit to project him having a big year. Kopitar's quick start will place him in the November 100 I am sure. - Chris Boyle Thu, 15 Oct 2009 04:31:02 +0100 http://hockey.dobbersports.com/index.php/columnistsarticles-mainmenu-77/17-archives-other-articles/2300-top-100-roto-players-october-2009#comment-1933 Man, I wish this list would have come out in Sept. - Renegade Thu, 15 Oct 2009 03:51:10 +0100 http://hockey.dobbersports.com/index.php/columnistsarticles-mainmenu-77/17-archives-other-articles/2300-top-100-roto-players-october-2009#comment-1932 Huge miss in Kopitar! Adds insult to injury with guys like Bourque, Michalek, Okposo, and Gomez on the list. Could be a 90 point guy this year. - Greg Hambly Thu, 15 Oct 2009 03:50:46 +0100 http://hockey.dobbersports.com/index.php/columnistsarticles-mainmenu-77/17-archives-other-articles/2300-top-100-roto-players-october-2009#comment-1930 Thought about Kopitar as well. Also I thought that because 2 goalies account for 40% of the stats, that there would be more on this list. Just a thought. - MM Thu, 15 Oct 2009 01:56:04 +0100 http://hockey.dobbersports.com/index.php/columnistsarticles-mainmenu-77/17-archives-other-articles/2300-top-100-roto-players-october-2009#comment-1928 IMO. One glaring name missising. Where is Kopitar - John Thu, 15 Oct 2009 01:40:51 +0100