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tgraveline · #**301** 06-07-2012, 08:35 PM

I'm more interested in the trade market as Wilson has repeatedly held back from the free agent market. I think their big splash will be either just before the draft or during it. Then possibly close to the start of the season when someone is looking to deal (Nash a la Heatley style). I really don't think Nash is the answer, but he'd be better than Marleau if we can somehow swap those, not necessarily with just CLB, but in a sense we end up with Nash and Marleau is gone somewhere. I just don't think that fixes the problems we have.

Twiggy · #**302** 06-11-2012, 07:18 PM

What would you say our problems are?

tgraveline · #**303** 06-11-2012, 09:49 PM

Right now, I'd say Marleau is an issue. He's talented, but doesn't really fit our top 6. So changing the top six is a must to some degree.

Also, I think once they sign Stuart, the Defense will be pretty solid, but I'd love for them to pull some sort of blockbuster for another amazing d-man in some sort of package. I'd like another clear-cut top 2 guy.

Another thing is I'm not sold on Niemi. They have tons of goaltending depth, but I'm not sure how good they are. I know they are solid, but no one is really ready except for maybe Greiss, but I don't think he can handle a full 60 game season and play like he can.

If you'd like to know more of what I'd really do Twiggy, check this out: http://thesharkremarks.blogspot.com/...-saturday.html

Twiggy · #**304** 06-12-2012, 04:06 PM

Interesting thoughts. As you said, some of them are a bit more difficult to obtain, but some of them could definitely be done I would think.

I'd be prepared to let Niemi have another turn around. I wasn't hugely sold on him this year, but I do think a lot of that came from what was playing in front of him. Especially when short handed. With the PK being so disgusting this year we were allowing way too many easy shots/goals there and that was in effect making Niemi worse. But I do agree on the depth. They're supposed to be fantastic, but we've got no idea how they will stand up in an actual position of responsibility.

I completely agree with your theory on moving Marleau, Thornton and Boyle. Boyler would be the last of the three to go in my books, but that's more reliant on if you're able to land another defenseman (I.e. your Suter type). If we can't get another big ticket item there I'd hang on to him. I've long thought that Marleau and Thornton have been our biggest issues. More post season than anything, but that's where you need your stars to shine. The pair of them have always struck me as 'Flat Track Bullies'. Can absolutely annihilate the weaker teams and when there's no pressure on the line, but when the intensity and contest ratchet up a notch, they go missing.

The one upside to moving Joe and Marleau is while they're on good money, it's only for 2 more seasons. So if one of the top teams did want to acquire them for a solid run to the cup, they're not going to be financially hamstrung for the next 5 years or anything.

I think overall you look at most teams who run deep into playoffs, they all have clutch players and a fair few of them. Clutch in my mind can be defined as scoring that big goal, making the big save, but can also just be as simple as grinding the other teams best player into nothing, or constantly taking the big shot blocks, or always threatening with a big burst of speed to throw open the defense. We just don't seem to have many players of that quality. You know Pavs and Logie will always give you their best and it's usually good, but so many of the other players out there don't stand out in any real way when the heat is on.

Ugh lol

tgraveline · #**305** 06-12-2012, 04:47 PM

Pretty much how I feel. I like Boyle and would love to see him stay, but I think if they're gonna change and do a full retooling, he'll bring in a ton of assets for the future.

Twiggy · #**306** 06-12-2012, 05:07 PM

Landing Burns last year helps that a lot. Not quite as painful if he was to go lol.

tgraveline · #**307** 06-12-2012, 05:10 PM

Yeah, especially if they could turn it into a high draft pick. This team needs something to get excited about coming up. The last one was Coyle, and before that it was Couture. In between it was Petrecki who's been a major let-down.

Twiggy · #**308** 06-12-2012, 05:46 PM

Yeah he's really peetered out to nothing hasn't he.

I did quite a big rant a few years back about our lack of upcoming forward talent. About the best we've got in the pipes is Wingles...Mashinter? Most of our prospects will pan out to be 3rd/4th liners, with the odd player being able to do spot duty on a top 6 spot. Nobody to generate lots of excitement

tgraveline · #**309** 06-12-2012, 07:33 PM

The new best forwards are Freddie Hamilton and Matt Nieto. At best, they're decent scoring 3rd liners.

kluu · #**310** 06-27-2012, 03:33 AM

DW just resigned
Desjardins 1 year
Wingels 2 years
Braun 3 years

Haven't seen the money #s yet but I'm loving the 3 years for Braun. I really think hes gonna be a good one for us. I see a great 2-way dman. Also, apparently Braun has been asked about by other teams.

Desjardins 1 year deal. Good energy player

I like Wingels too, but I wish we could have Mcginn back.

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