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ericdaoust · #11 12-31-2010, 02:32 PM

It's going to be interesting to see how this 3YP thing plays out for someone like Kabanov. His upside was listed at 100 and it made him a high draft option in the eyes of several people I've talked to. But his 3YP could be as low as 40. Interesting to say the least. I think it's a big step forward as it gives more of a true picture of what could realistically happen instead of knowing what the perfect storm scenario would be like and having to decide which players will approach their upsides and which others will likely fail to be anything despite the talent to do better.

TheRook · #12 12-31-2010, 03:10 PM

i like the idea and am looking forward to it.

i wish you were doing the next 3 years as apposed to the 3 best years. I think it would be easier to evaluate the accuracy of your projections and allow us poolies to evaluate players based on the 3 yr window to build successful teams. We always talk about evaluating your team in a 3 year window and this would be another valuable fantasy tool to build on that evaluation.

It would also allow us to weigh the next three year estimated production with the upside when evaluating young prospects and determining when they will be effective for our squads. We can more easily identify which prospects we want to be patient with and their expected return for our squads in the next three years.

It would also be easier to adjust based on a players role with the team, and the different minutes they start to get as they mature and become a key piece of the teams success. Projecting what a player may do in one of his best seasons 10 years from now can almost be impossible when you take into consideration the changes to the game, the team he may be on, the role he plays, and the league he plays in.

Dont get me wrong i like what your doing here and think it will provide a better sample data than using upside. Keep up the good work and i look forward to seeing it.

Atomic Wedgy · #13 12-31-2010, 08:53 PM

Interesting element. I'm keen to check it out.

tryhard87 · #14 01-02-2011, 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by TheRook

i like the idea and am looking forward to it.

i wish you were doing the next 3 years as apposed to the 3 best years. I think it would be easier to evaluate the accuracy of your projections and allow us poolies to evaluate players based on the 3 yr window to build successful teams. We always talk about evaluating your team in a 3 year window and this would be another valuable fantasy tool to build on that evaluation.

It would also allow us to weigh the next three year estimated production with the upside when evaluating young prospects and determining when they will be effective for our squads. We can more easily identify which prospects we want to be patient with and their expected return for our squads in the next three years.

It would also be easier to adjust based on a players role with the team, and the different minutes they start to get as they mature and become a key piece of the teams success. Projecting what a player may do in one of his best seasons 10 years from now can almost be impossible when you take into consideration the changes to the game, the team he may be on, the role he plays, and the league he plays in.

Dont get me wrong i like what your doing here and think it will provide a better sample data than using upside. Keep up the good work and i look forward to seeing it.

I have to agree with this. I think the Next Three Years would be more valuable than the 3 Best Years. You pretty much summed up my thoughts TheRook.

Dobber · #15 01-03-2011, 09:34 AM

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Originally Posted by ericdaoust

It's going to be interesting to see how this 3YP thing plays out for someone like Kabanov. His upside was listed at 100 and it made him a high draft option in the eyes of several people I've talked to. But his 3YP could be as low as 40. Interesting to say the least. I think it's a big step forward as it gives more of a true picture of what could realistically happen instead of knowing what the perfect storm scenario would be like and having to decide which players will approach their upsides and which others will likely fail to be anything despite the talent to do better.

This is exactly what makes this new variable so effective. It deadens how much a longshot prospect gets skewed upward, and at the same time some of the surer prospects actually did move up as opposed to the veterans with lower 3YP

You guys bring up an excellent point on next three years vs. three best years. But since the projection for this year is included, the immediate future is covered reasonably well. Still, you give me something to think about.

Bomm Bastic · #16 01-05-2011, 09:21 AM

Oh, damn. I misunderstood, completely. I was under the impression the 3YP was the projected next 3 years.

No disrespect, but I don't really see how there is added value in predicting "best 3 years" vs. "upside". Both seem somewhat ambiguous in terms of 'when'.

I just think the next 3 years out would be a better metric at establishing strategy with regard to draft order/year, trades and waivers. Much like what The Rook was getting at.

I am intrigued, however, and an open mind.

SK47 · #17 01-10-2011, 10:39 AM

I do agree..... I see a great asset to seeing the best 3 years. Rather than total upside based on a "perfect" situation. But, the next 3 years would be a great asset.