the man is the undisputed PP QB on carolina, is one point shy of a point per game thus far, and yet when i include him in trade offers, my fellow poolies treat him like the plague? Obviously his name bogs down his value, but at some point are people going to recognize him as the 65-75 point player that he will likely become this year?

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Currently drafting keeper

12 team roto, daily lineups

G,A,PPP, +/-, PIM, SOG, Faceoff Wins

W, SO, GAA, SV%

C: Tavares, Zajac, Brassard, Filppula
LW: Parise, Clowe, Penner, Bourque
RW: Hemsky, Giroux, Alfredsson, Radulov
D:Myers, Yandle, Carle
G: Rinne, Ward, Gustavsson

Farm: Filatov, Hodgson, Wilson, Skinner, Grabner, Sbisa, Moore, Stepan

that kinda depends on the type of managers you have in your league - good managers will come to value him - guys that tend to go on name or the initial rankings in a league will not often get there.

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Yahoo weekly starts 12 team league, keep 17 plus farm

GS, W, L, SV, GAA, SV%, SO G, A, P, +/-, PIM, SOG, GWG, PPP, SHP, HITS, FOW

3C: H. Sedin,Stepan, Stastny, R. Johansen, Hanzal, Anisimov,
3LW: Burrows, Vanek, Ott, Lupul, Dubinsky
3RW: Doan, Pavelski, Brown, Okposo,
6D: Franson, Doughty, Voynov, Subban, Markov, Gonchar, Karlsson
1Util:
2G: Price, Emery


Farm: (< 100 games): S. Elliott, J. Bernier, Galchenyuk, Etem, Eakin, Atkinson

No. Not yet. But smart ones will. Anyway if nobody bites then sit on him, don\'t drop your offer. Try again at 40 points.

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DobberHockey Rules
14 Team Keeper, points only, best 12 skaters 2 dman 2 G count. Playoffs count.
F - Crosby, C.Smith, Wheeler, Parenteau, Hudler, Clowe, Grabovski, Atkinson, Frolik, S. Kostitsyn, Marchand, Peverley, Tavares, Read, Brouwer, Bickell, Gionta, Setoguchi
G - Anderson, Hiller, Markstrom, Brodeur
D - Letang, Del Zotto, I. White, Kronwall, Brodin, Nikitin

I would probably be one of those guys who would be cautious on Cullen. His pervious career high is 49 points so there is always the perception that this is just a very prolonged hot streak.

Still, I understand what you are saying. I get the same way about my fantasy assets that get no respect. However sometimes it is a good idea to look in the mirror. I would suggest that you ask yourself a question: If you are so upset about people not being high on Cullen why are you trying to trade him?

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Too many leagues this year... I think I own every player somewhere.

I thought about the very same thing Reveeta but then recognized that prehaps dbellan had surplus assets and was looking to package from an upgrade which would make sense then to offer Cullen around (and his case to find that Cullen isn\'t valued very highly)

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Yahoo weekly starts 12 team league, keep 17 plus farm

GS, W, L, SV, GAA, SV%, SO G, A, P, +/-, PIM, SOG, GWG, PPP, SHP, HITS, FOW

3C: H. Sedin,Stepan, Stastny, R. Johansen, Hanzal, Anisimov,
3LW: Burrows, Vanek, Ott, Lupul, Dubinsky
3RW: Doan, Pavelski, Brown, Okposo,
6D: Franson, Doughty, Voynov, Subban, Markov, Gonchar, Karlsson
1Util:
2G: Price, Emery


Farm: (< 100 games): S. Elliott, J. Bernier, Galchenyuk, Etem, Eakin, Atkinson

i\'m pretty much in the situation that shoeless described... i have many \&quot;good-not-great\&quot; forwards, whom i would like to package into a deal in an attempt to get younger... if you guys hadn\'t told him not to, i would have fleeced my friend for getzlaf and E. Johnson a couple of days back!!! don\'t know if you remember :P

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Currently drafting keeper

12 team roto, daily lineups

G,A,PPP, +/-, PIM, SOG, Faceoff Wins

W, SO, GAA, SV%

C: Tavares, Zajac, Brassard, Filppula
LW: Parise, Clowe, Penner, Bourque
RW: Hemsky, Giroux, Alfredsson, Radulov
D:Myers, Yandle, Carle
G: Rinne, Ward, Gustavsson

Farm: Filatov, Hodgson, Wilson, Skinner, Grabner, Sbisa, Moore, Stepan

for clarity, i know he doesn\'t carry THAT much value, but i think some of my fellow managers would rather have an open slot than cullen :O

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Currently drafting keeper

12 team roto, daily lineups

G,A,PPP, +/-, PIM, SOG, Faceoff Wins

W, SO, GAA, SV%

C: Tavares, Zajac, Brassard, Filppula
LW: Parise, Clowe, Penner, Bourque
RW: Hemsky, Giroux, Alfredsson, Radulov
D:Myers, Yandle, Carle
G: Rinne, Ward, Gustavsson

Farm: Filatov, Hodgson, Wilson, Skinner, Grabner, Sbisa, Moore, Stepan

oops - yeah I remember.

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Yahoo weekly starts 12 team league, keep 17 plus farm

GS, W, L, SV, GAA, SV%, SO G, A, P, +/-, PIM, SOG, GWG, PPP, SHP, HITS, FOW

3C: H. Sedin,Stepan, Stastny, R. Johansen, Hanzal, Anisimov,
3LW: Burrows, Vanek, Ott, Lupul, Dubinsky
3RW: Doan, Pavelski, Brown, Okposo,
6D: Franson, Doughty, Voynov, Subban, Markov, Gonchar, Karlsson
1Util:
2G: Price, Emery


Farm: (< 100 games): S. Elliott, J. Bernier, Galchenyuk, Etem, Eakin, Atkinson

hah no problem, basically if that trade had gone through though, i would have no gripes :P... but i still do find that he does not receive due value when i offer him in EVEN trades

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Currently drafting keeper

12 team roto, daily lineups

G,A,PPP, +/-, PIM, SOG, Faceoff Wins

W, SO, GAA, SV%

C: Tavares, Zajac, Brassard, Filppula
LW: Parise, Clowe, Penner, Bourque
RW: Hemsky, Giroux, Alfredsson, Radulov
D:Myers, Yandle, Carle
G: Rinne, Ward, Gustavsson

Farm: Filatov, Hodgson, Wilson, Skinner, Grabner, Sbisa, Moore, Stepan

I have Cullen also. Your right he gets no respect. I have tryed to package him into a couple of deals and nobody wants him.
I start him over Brind\'amoor now. It took me almost this long to warm up to him.
He has been one of my best players this year so far.