Banner
Fantasy Sports Forums - Dobber Sports  
  #1  
Old 11-28-2010, 04:46 PM
Leafsin2050 Leafsin2050 is offline
Join Date: Sep 2007
Posts: 344
 
Location: Toronto, ON
Rep Power: 0
Leafsin2050 is an unknown quantity at this point
Dobber Sports Initiate
Default What is EJ worth?

I am in a 12 team. 15 player keeper league and people are asking about EJ.

League starts 3C, 4D, 7W, 1G
G, A, PTS, PPP, SHP , +/-, GWG, PIM, Shots are skating categories

I am tempted to trade EJ as I think he is better in real life than fantasy.

It would leave me at D with: Yandle, White, Gilbert, Carlsson, Campbell and something (if anything) I get back in trade.

One team has Parise and I am thinking of offering him EJ and a winger for him

So the questions boil down to:
1) What do you think of EJ?
2) What is fair value for him?
3) Is Parise worth pursuing for EJ plus Bergfors or Raymond
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 11-28-2010, 04:57 PM
MJ Flex's Avatar
MJ Flex MJ Flex is online now
Join Date: Jan 2008
Posts: 857
 
Location: Ottawa, Ontario
Rep Power: 8
MJ Flex has a spectacular aura aboutMJ Flex has a spectacular aura aboutMJ Flex has a spectacular aura aboutMJ Flex has a spectacular aura about
Dobber Sports Pro
Default

EJ's upside is 45 to 55 pts with solid roto stats. That's the expected return I would want for EJ. I compare him to a Shea Weber.

J
__________________
14 team Rotisserie league (No positional requirements: 5 Keepers + 1 Rookie).

Skaters: G, A, PIM, +/-, HT, BS, SOG
Goalies: W, (.5)SO, (.5)SV

Weekly starts. Active Roster consists of 6 FW, 4 D and 2 G. Keepers are:

Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 11-28-2010, 05:11 PM
blunas's Avatar
blunas blunas is offline
Join Date: Apr 2010
Posts: 413
 
Location: Boston
Rep Power: 0
blunas is an unknown quantity at this point
Dobber Sports Initiate
Default

I hope for the sake of all those who have invested in him that I am wrong- but I am not sold on him being the stud offensive D that some think he will be. I am sorry but I have seen nothing to make me believe that is the case. He is a very good defenseman but that does not pay in fantasy. I do not want anyone to be doing anything based on what I say, but just giving my 2 cents. He is not even owned in either of my leagues, and all 10 guys in each league know a lot about hockey.
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 11-28-2010, 05:23 PM
rellekretep's Avatar
rellekretep rellekretep is offline
Join Date: Aug 2008
Posts: 131
 
Rep Power: 0
rellekretep is an unknown quantity at this point
Dobber Sports Apprentice
Default

These are his numbers from a year ago.

10 g, 29 a, 39 p, 79 pim, 15 ppp, 186 sog

For a D man in his "3rd" year, that's pretty damn good. I say "3rd" because he lost his entire 2nd year to a knee injury. So to come off an entire year away from pro hockey and put up those numbers, I would say is pretty special.

Weber is a good comparison, my only question with him is will he see the PP time with Pietrangelo rising up?

I would expect at least those numbers coming back at me. Remember that D men take a little longer to develop, but this lad is going to be gold.
__________________
14 Team Keeper H2H *08-09,09-10 Champ*
Keep: 7Skaters,1Goalie
G,A,P,PPP,SHP,GWG,SOG,HITS,PIM,+/-
W,GAA,SVS,SV%,SHO
C-Spezza,J.Staal,A.McDonald,B.Boyle,Ott
LW-Parise,Neal,Benn,Steen,Moulson
RW-Skinner,Brouwer,Pominville,Alfredsson
D-Weber,Phaneuf,Zidlicky,Bieska
G-Luongo,Theodore,Thomas
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 11-28-2010, 05:32 PM
Leafsin2050 Leafsin2050 is offline
Join Date: Sep 2007
Posts: 344
 
Location: Toronto, ON
Rep Power: 0
Leafsin2050 is an unknown quantity at this point
Dobber Sports Initiate
Default

My worry is that like the forwards he has too much competition to put up good pp points. I am in 7th and have a fairly young team (with the exception of thornton and m hossa)...would you move ej and bergfors or raymond for parise?
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 11-28-2010, 05:33 PM
blunas's Avatar
blunas blunas is offline
Join Date: Apr 2010
Posts: 413
 
Location: Boston
Rep Power: 0
blunas is an unknown quantity at this point
Dobber Sports Initiate
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by rellekretep View Post
These are his numbers from a year ago.

10 g, 29 a, 39 p, 79 pim, 15 ppp, 186 sog

For a D man in his "3rd" year, that's pretty damn good. I say "3rd" because he lost his entire 2nd year to a knee injury. So to come off an entire year away from pro hockey and put up those numbers, I would say is pretty special.

Weber is a good comparison, my only question with him is will he see the PP time with Pietrangelo rising up?

I would expect at least those numbers coming back at me. Remember that D men take a little longer to develop, but this lad is going to be gold.
Definitely a decent third year, I am just not convinced about the 50+ point comments. Like I said, I hope I am wrong, both because it would be a great thing for USA hockey to have him get to that level, and it would be good for all those out there that have invested in him. I just think that people should probably be tempering their expectations a bit more than they are, but who knows.
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 11-28-2010, 05:34 PM
bizzy's Avatar
bizzy bizzy is online now
Join Date: Oct 2008
Posts: 651
 
Rep Power: 0
bizzy is on a distinguished road
Dobber Sports Ace
Default

i got Markov for him before Markov's injury.....EJ is 4th on the PP QB list on STL behind Steen,Pietro,Colo, his numbers will not reach 40 with those 3 in front of him for PP time, IMO
__________________
20 GMs with 14 Keepers, Pts only, Top 9F,4D,1G count(5 bench)

Hossa-Plekanec-Vanek
Brown-Riberio-Nash
Boyes-Getzlaf-Perry
Jagr-Jensen-Soderberg

Suter-Goligoski
Letang-Burns
Trouba

Smith
Luongo
__________________________________________________ __________________________
12 GMs with 18 Keepers. 22 man roster, Multi Cat.

C-Santana
1B-Votto
2B-Cano
SS-Tulowitzki
3B-MCabrera
OF-Kemp
OF-Stanton
OF-Zobrist
UT-Beltre
UT-AGON
B-Iannatta
B-Myers

SP-Hamels
SP-Greinke
SP-CC Sabbathia
SP-Lee
SP-Bumgarner
RP-Motte
RP-Papelbon
RP-Romo
RP-Holland
RP-Robertson
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 11-28-2010, 05:43 PM
blunas's Avatar
blunas blunas is offline
Join Date: Apr 2010
Posts: 413
 
Location: Boston
Rep Power: 0
blunas is an unknown quantity at this point
Dobber Sports Initiate
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Leafsin2050 View Post
My worry is that like the forwards he has too much competition to put up good pp points. I am in 7th and have a fairly young team (with the exception of thornton and m hossa)...would you move ej and bergfors or raymond for parise?
If I could get Parise for any combination of those three (or all 3 together) I would not even think twice.
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 11-28-2010, 05:48 PM
Antrocop Antrocop is offline
Join Date: Sep 2008
Posts: 259
 
Rep Power: 0
Antrocop is an unknown quantity at this point
Dobber Sports Initiate
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by bizzy View Post
i got Markov for him before Markov's injury.....EJ is 4th on the PP QB list on STL behind Steen,Pietro,Colo, his numbers will not reach 40 with those 3 in front of him for PP time, IMO
No he's not........he's second, behind only Carlo in PP TOI/G.



He's averaging over 3 minutes in PP time per night.
__________________
13 Team Money League
G, A, PIM, PPP, SOG, GAA, S%, W, SO

C- Marleau, Spezza (Crosby)
RW - Heatley, Gaborik (Clarkson)
LW - Parise, Kovalchuk (Downie)
D - Weber, Boyle, Subban, Carlson
G - Lehtonen, Backstrom, Giguere
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 11-28-2010, 05:51 PM
rellekretep's Avatar
rellekretep rellekretep is offline
Join Date: Aug 2008
Posts: 131
 
Rep Power: 0
rellekretep is an unknown quantity at this point
Dobber Sports Apprentice
Default

If you can get parise for him, jump all over that.

EJ is St Louis' 1st overall draft pick. They are going to give him lots of time to develop into a premier player. It could take a year or two more. Steen, Coli, are not ppl to worry about. Alex is, but still EJ is coming out of the doors a little slow this year. He'll pick it up and most likely end with what he had last year, and move up from there to a ceiling of 55pts I would say.
__________________
14 Team Keeper H2H *08-09,09-10 Champ*
Keep: 7Skaters,1Goalie
G,A,P,PPP,SHP,GWG,SOG,HITS,PIM,+/-
W,GAA,SVS,SV%,SHO
C-Spezza,J.Staal,A.McDonald,B.Boyle,Ott
LW-Parise,Neal,Benn,Steen,Moulson
RW-Skinner,Brouwer,Pominville,Alfredsson
D-Weber,Phaneuf,Zidlicky,Bieska
G-Luongo,Theodore,Thomas
Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 12:39 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2013, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.