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Old 11-27-2010, 09:16 PM
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Default Shea Weber: sell or hold?

Coming into this season I was pretty high on the guy... the past 2 seasons he's averaged around 20 goals, 48 points, 20 powerplay points, decent PIMs, and loads of hits and blocks, all of which are counted in my league (not in sig). I guess my question is, will he pick up the pace soon despite his poor start? 2 goals thus far is simply unacceptable... I value this guy alongside the likes of Phaneuf and Chara given their peripheral stats, yet he has underperformed more than most defenseman to this point. Will he rebound or should I try to upgrade my forwards/goalies? Here is all of the info:

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start 4 C, LW, RW, 6 D, 2 G, 1 UTIL
stats: G, A, PPP, SHP, +/-, PIM, FW, SOG, HIT, BLK, W, GAA, SV%, SV, SHO
C: Malkin, Kopitar, Gomez, Jokinen, Couture, Gagner
LW: Neal, Hartnell, McDonald (C), Huselius (IR), Torres, Vasyunov
RW: Gaborik, Simmonds, Clarkson, Wheeler, Caron
D: Weber, Chara, Carlson, Edler, Carle, Shattenkirk
G: Rask, Niemi, Bernier, Lindback
farm: Granlund, Smith, Holtby, Palmieri

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G, A, PPP, SHP, PIM, +/-, SOG, HIT, BLK, FW / W, SV, SV%, GAA, SHO

C: Kopitar, Toews, Krejci, M. Koivu, Plekanec, Johansson
LW: Eriksson (RW), Hartnell, M. Richards (C), McDonald (C)
RW: Malkin (C), St. Louis, Eberle, Gaborik, Atkinson, Cole
D: Karlsson, Pietrangelo, Doughty, Suter, Goligoski, Carle, Beauchemin
G: Lundqvist, Fleury, Hiller

Farm: Chiasson, Killorn, Jenner, T. Johnson, Merrill, Rattie, Vatanen, Visentin, Wilson

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Old 11-27-2010, 09:34 PM
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There is no question that Weber is a top defenseman despite his slow start. At this point you won't get true value given the sluggish start. You are pretty deep on the back end and you could use a little help between the pipes (its great but young) and on the wings.

All that being said, for me, it would have to be a sweet deal to move Weber

Good luck with your choice
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Hold.....you'd be selling low, and get a garbage return.
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Put me down as another vote for sticking with Weber. It's not a case of if, but rather when he'll get back on track. When he does you'll want to be there to reap the benefits both this year and in the future.

Right now you'd be bucking long odds to get anything even remotely close to what Weber's truly worth, so keep the faith and hang on to him.
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I would hold on to Weber as well, unless I got a major upgrade somewhere else, and given his current value that's not likely to happen.
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I'm a Weber owner and believer as well. He is one of my 3 keepers and I have little doubt he'll pick it up eventually.
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Yah Weber is much too valuable in your league to give him up 'cause of a slow start.

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If anything, Weber's actually one of the best 'buy-low' targets in any league.........making him one of the last people you should sell, if you're one of his owners.
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Hold him, no question! I'm trying very hard to get him in all of my leagues.
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I traded Weber this afternoon for Enstrom. Team and league info in my sig. While I think Weber is clearly the better defenseman (and scores 15-20 goals in a G-bonused league) there are a few reasons why I pulled the trigger:

1.) When it comes to fantasy hockey, the Preds make me sick. They are dull and have no flavor whatsoever. They are not offensive-minded enough for my liking.

2.) Weber, while a monster more often than not, is way too inconsistent for me. This is a weekly H2H league and Weber has a history of being feast or famine.

3.) Enstrom is steady. His biggest problem is that my league has BIG bonuses for goals and he scores under 10 per year. But, I can count on him for points each week. He should be a lock for 50-60 points (which = 100-120+ bonus in my league).

4.) Weber being named captain most likely means that he will re-up with the Preds for the long haul. I think that is bad news for his owners. On most teams he would be a constant 50-60 threat. On the Preds, knock 10-15 off that.

All of that said, I think Enstrom is a quality return for Weber. But I would not endorse just giving Weber away for nothing because you (or anyone) are frustrated with him. Enstrom scored 50 points last year and is poised for 50-60 this season.

I think Weber will pick up the pace quite a bit (I think he has 5 points in his last 8 GP) and end up with 14G/30A this season but it will be a dip for him this year. Get him the hell out of Nashville and you are sitting on fantasy gold!!
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