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habs83 · #**1361** 04-11-2012, 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by robmyatt

I personally don't expect or even desire much of an improvement for next year. If the team had of been healthy this year and won half of the shootouts they lost they could have made the playoffs. The margin for error in the NHL is very small.

That said, finishing last in the east put them in an excellent position to aquire a top talent like Galchenyuk and if they draft him, I feel he should still spend at least another full year in Sarnia.

The D will be fine for the forseeable future. No point in paying for a guy like Suter who will cost an arm and a leg when the prospect cupboard is full and the current blue line is decent.

Cole will need to be replaced in 2-3 years. Kristo/Gallagher might not be top 6 players.

I'm fine if they finish near the bottom again next year. It's the right move for the organization even if they get booood all year long.

MacKinnon = Star.

This team is where it is because for years they traded 2nd round picks for guys like Lang, Tanguay, etc. The cupboards are bare and they now have a chance to restock them.

I'm ranting now.

I'm not begging for a quick patching job, far from it. I also think that there is nothing wrong with another lottery pick next season. I only think that the new management will be looking for an improvement sooner rather than later.

I already stated in this thread that I love what the pipeline has to offer on th edefensive side. Nevertheless, they will have to replace Markov soon, and we saw what happened this season when they don't have a true #1 D on the team to play tough minutes, QB the PP and helping the coach manage the ice time of the bottom pairing. That's why I would listen carefully if a true #1 D becomes available as a UFA or via trade. They are so tough to acquire... Guys like Suter and Schultz this summer and Weber and Edler the year after that would be on the top of my list. I know, they'll be on the top of every team list, but I mean by that that I would be open to the idea to overpay a little to get them.

ericdaoust · #**1362** 04-11-2012, 12:48 PM

I didn't have time to read everything, but I will say that Gomez's contract will not be traded. The Panthers showed that it's a far better alternative to just spend the money intelligently rather than trying to cut corners to get to the cap floor. A better team sells more tickets which will compensate for whatever extra actual dollars are spent to bring in competitive players.

I'm not sure about a NMC in Gomez's contract, but I don't know if the Molsons are that excited about spending 10 million over 2 years to bury a guy in the minors. My guess is he will be bought out because I'm almost certain there will be a free buyout period after the new CBA is signed as there will no doubt be some hefty rule changes to allow the two sides to agree.

habs83 · #**1363** 04-11-2012, 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by ericdaoust

I didn't have time to read everything, but I will say that Gomez's contract will not be traded. The Panthers showed that it's a far better alternative to just spend the money intelligently rather than trying to cut corners to get to the cap floor. A better team sells more tickets which will compensate for whatever extra actual dollars are spent to bring in competitive players.

I'm not sure about a NMC in Gomez's contract, but I don't know if the Molsons are that excited about spending 10 million over 2 years to bury a guy in the minors. My guess is he will be bought out because I'm almost certain there will be a free buyout period after the new CBA is signed as there will no doubt be some hefty rule changes to allow the two sides to agree.

Gomez has a NTC, not a NMC. I'm not cetain that the new CBA will allow the free buyout period, even if I hope it will. The players lost so much in the last CBA, and they know that their share of the total revenues will be lower again, they'll hang to everything else (buyouts, schedule, free agency age, etc.). If there is no free buyout period, I absolutely do not want the team to buy out Gomez under the actual rules. The cap will likely go down a little bit, so every million saved is extremely valuable. Molson can afford to pay Gomer to play in the AHL, and he admitted that he was ready to explore every option to give chance to the new GM concerning cap management.

ericdaoust · #**1364** 04-11-2012, 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by habs83

Molson can afford to pay Gomer to play in the AHL, and he admitted that he was ready to explore every option to give chance to the new GM concerning cap management.

I see what you mean, and I hope he does whatever it takes to help the salary cap situation. I just don't know if many owners are actually willing to spend that much hard cash on players that are not at the highest level. Rich or not, 10 million over 2 years is still a lot of money. I really hope you are right, but from my eyes seeing is believing. I just want Gomez out of town.

Akkei · #**1365** 04-11-2012, 01:08 PM

Re Gomez: the problem I can see however is that (if I am not mistaken) the buyout window under the current CBA opens after the Stanley Cup finals are over and closes on June 30th. The Habs will therefore have to decide what they want to do with Gomez before there is an agreement on the new CBA. They may take their chances that the new CBA will have a free buyout period and bury Gomez in Hamilton if it does not happen.

habs83 · #**1366** 04-11-2012, 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by ericdaoust

I just want Gomez out of town.

Amen! That day can't come fast enough...

habs83 · #**1367** 04-11-2012, 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Akkei

Re Gomez: the problem I can see however is that (if I am not mistaken) the buyout window under the current CBA opens after the Stanley Cup finals are over and closes on June 30th. The Habs will therefore have to decide what they want to do with Gomez before there is an agreement on the new CBA. They may take their chances that the new CBA will have a free buyout period and bury Gomez in Hamilton if it does not happen.

You are right about the buyout period. That is what I would do...either way, I would bet my house that Gomez has played his last game as a Hab...unless management is real serious about that 2013 lottery pick.

ericdaoust · #**1368** 04-11-2012, 01:29 PM

Gomez used to get the same label as Brian Campbell - a decent player but way overpaid. Campbell is paid over 7 million but you could argue that his play in Chicago warranted around 5 million. Based on his NYR days, Gomez was probably worth about 4-5 million.

But this past season Gomez took it to another level. I would argue that he was among the worst players in the entire league, regardless of salary.

STONE. · #**1369** 04-11-2012, 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by ericdaoust

Gomez used to get the same label as Brian Campbell - a decent player but way overpaid. Campbell is paid over 7 million but you could argue that his play in Chicago warranted around 5 million. Based on his NYR days, Gomez was probably worth about 4-5 million.

But this past season Gomez took it to another level. I would argue that he was among the worst players in the entire league, regardless of salary.

I get that he was brutal and that Habs fans are done with him. I just wonder if his brutal play is linked to the constant criticism. The guy was a horrible addition the minute the Habs got him.

I've got to wonder if he couldn't bounce back in a new situation. The drive isn't there now -- could it be with a new, fresh setting? I have a hard time thinking he went from 70 point threat to nothingness overnight.

Maybe it's naive, but that's what I'd be spinning if I were the Habs ownership and trying to deal him. Time will tell I suppose.

ericdaoust · #**1370** 04-11-2012, 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by STONE.

I get that he was brutal and that Habs fans are done with him. I just wonder if his brutal play is linked to the constant criticism. The guy was a horrible addition the minute the Habs got him.

I think the poor play comes from poor conditioning linked to a long lucrative contract. He can still skate like the wind but he's always crawling back to the bench at the end of a shift. Plus his backchecking is non-existant.

He might do a bit better in a new situation but I see nothing in his level of play that suggests he'll be anything more than a depth player.

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