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He'll win the title this year. Probably by 10 points. But that's not enough for me. I don't see the 140+ upside. Not that 130 is anything to sneeze at...

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very interesting how big of an effect "the moment" has on the perception of players. I said it before the season started and I'll say it again now... Stammer won't even hit 100.
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very interesting how big of an effect "the moment" has on the perception of players. I said it before the season started and I'll say it again now... Stammer won't even hit 100.
I still see him hitting 100. Don't see him clearing 110 though.
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I still see him hitting 100. Don't see him clearing 110 though.

yea, I think the odds are that he'll hit 100 too. but i like to play devil's advocate so I'm gonna say that he finishes with 54 and 43
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Wow - five points. He's starting to sway me.

Yes, he's awesome.

I said in my recent Hockey News article that he may win two or three scoring titles. I hinted that he could win the scoring title this year. He'll win it, I'm sure. He'll get 125 points.
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Saw him live last week vs Edmonton. He's a great player don't get me wrong but once Marty starts to slow down I don't think he'll be challenging Crosby/Ovi/etc for scoring titles unless he gets another star winger to play with.
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Why does everyone always get stuck on this "Big 3"/"Big 4"/Big 5" thing? Stamkos is an NHL superstar. Can't we just be happy with that. How do we differnentiate Malkin from the Sedins or Backstrom and now Stamkos to determine the big 3. H. Sedin won a scoring title like Malkin has. Backstrom has as many 100 point seasons.

Since there are really only 2 constant members of the Big 3, Ovie and Crosby can't we just say its a Big 2.
Well put. In my league that is slightly goal-heavy, and favours players who produce on special teams Malkin has NEVER been the best pool player to own in any season. Until he has a season better than the other 2, he doesn't belong in the conversation IMO.
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Well put. In my league that is slightly goal-heavy, and favours players who produce on special teams Malkin has NEVER been the best pool player to own in any season. Until he has a season better than the other 2, he doesn't belong in the conversation IMO.

I disagree. If by "special teams" you mean powerplay, then Malkin is one of the best players to own. Each season he finishes towards to top in PPGs. He's one of the best powerplay weapons in the NHL, only Ovechkin and Stamkos are better options on the one-timer in my opinion.
If you mean depth categories, he's been very reliable for a PIM a game his whole career too. He plays physical and plays center, making him valuable for hits and faceoffs. He's on pace to beat his career high SOG by a decent margin this season and at that age he's only getting better. He totally has the upside, talent, and team situation to hit 140+, and I think that's enough to lock up a spot for him in the Big 3.
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I disagree. If by "special teams" you mean powerplay, then Malkin is one of the best players to own. Each season he finishes towards to top in PPGs. He's one of the best powerplay weapons in the NHL, only Ovechkin and Stamkos are better options on the one-timer in my opinion.
If you mean depth categories, he's been very reliable for a PIM a game his whole career too. He plays physical and plays center, making him valuable for hits and faceoffs. He's on pace to beat his career high SOG by a decent margin this season and at that age he's only getting better. He totally has the upside, talent, and team situation to hit 140+, and I think that's enough to lock up a spot for him in the Big 3.
Outside of the faceoffs argument (lining up as a winger all season) I'd have to agree here.
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Even the great Dobber falls victim to hype sometimes too

very interesting how big of an effect "the moment" has on the perception of players. I said it before the season started and I'll say it again now... Stammer won't even hit 100.




took a lot of flack for that!!! (not in these forums-- i preached it pretty hard in my fantasy drafts/circles)

at this rate he'll be lucky to top his 95 points from last season
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