He sure is not getting an oppertunity like we thought he would. Starting the season, Dobber had him for 50 and a sure #1 PP guy. So far he's #4 behind Pitkanen, Corvo and Babchuk. What are they thinking? 10 pts in 14 GP last year and going thru a youth movement why not play him more with the man advantage? Very disappointed, hope he gets more to work with going forward.

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15 team keeper league
F - P.Marleau, B.Richards, Heatley, T. Fleishmann, Langenbrunner, T. Holmstrom, R.Whitney, Cheechoo, Voracek, Little, T. Ruutu, Kessel,
D - Boyle, Weber, A. Edler, Zidlicky, J. Wisniewski, Kubina
G - M. Kiprusoff, S. Varlamov, P. Rinne
Farm: E.Karlsson, Carlson, Grabner, Repik

I'm very disappointed with his season so far. I doubt he gets 35 pts this year now. He just isn't getting a chance to earn top minutes and isn't on the #1 PP unit.

Too bad, because he is a very talented player. Oh well. Hopefully next year.

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10 team league, multi-cat, full keeper.

Forwards: J. Toews, J. Tavares, J. Eberle, J. Neal, A. Kopitar, T. Seguin, E. Kane, M. Duchene, J. Benn, M. Ryder, D. Brown, B. Marchand

Defense: A. Pietrangelo, K. Shattenkirk, A. Goligoski, PK Subban, J. Carlson, J. Spurgeon

Goalies: M. Smith, A. Niemi

Bench: R. Clowe, B. Dubinsky, M. Calvert, P. Mueller, D. Clarkson, M. Carle, M. Niskanen, P. Wiercioch, J. Halak, A. Lindback

McBain will crack 30 if he is lucky. I took him with my 1st rounder and I am thinking long-term.

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6-GM, H2H, Keep 40
START = 13F, 6D, 2G
FWD = G(2), A(1), PP/SH(+1), GW(+2), SHOG(1)
DEF = G(3), A(2), PP/SH(+1), GW(+2), SHOG(1)
GOALIE = W(3), OTL(1), SO(+2), SV(.10)

F: Backstrom, Kopitar, Perry, P.Kane, Spezza, E.Staal, Nash, Vanek, B.Ryan, Eberle, L.Couture, J.Staal, D.Brown, N.Horton, Lucic, Backes, Tarasenko, J.van Riemsdyk, T.Ennis, B.Gallagher, Nyquist, Armia, Teravainen
D: Karlsson, PK Subban, Pietrangelo, Shattenkirk, Doughty, Yandle, Chara, J.Johnson, T.Myers, J.Faulk, E.Johnson, A.Larsson, J.Morrow, S.Elliott, M.Rielly, G.Reinhart, C.Ceci
G: Price, Rask, M.Smith, Hiller

Fungchen is correct here. He draft McBain for his long term potential, not just this year. His production is a bit of a surprise since he is getting enough TOI, maybe not PP but he is still out enough to make some impact.

Very disappointing to see him hit 22 minutes played and come out with 0 pts and +1 after the Canes score 7. That is a little worrisome.

That said, I am hovering around those owners in my leagues that are now thinking they paid too much for him...

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10 Team Salary Cap Keeper League-protect up to 15
Total of points and +/-; position vs. position
(ie. my 2 Centres vs. his 2 Centres)
C -Cammalleri, Ribeiro, Thornton, Dalpe
LW -Ennis, McDonald, Neal, Kulemin
RW -Kovalchuk, Briere, Omark, Alferdsson
D -Blum, Pronger, Hamonic, Keith,Yandle
G -Varlamov, S. Mason, Crawford, Miller

disappointed owner here too, I used my last keeper spot on him in the summer. I wasnt happy at all when they signed Corvo, but I still thought McBain would get top PP minutes, unfortunately the bum Corvo has gotten all the prime minutes, and surprise surprise the Canes PP is operating at an amazing 11%, good for 27th in the NHL.

Tonight Pitkanen is out so Babchuk gets the promotion and the PP goes 0-7. I'm beginning to question Maurice's intelligence as I've always viewed him as 1 of the smartest minds in hockey. I've been watching a lot of Canes this year and McBain has struggled in his own zone, but he has still been creating a lot of offense and making great passes. I'm gonna hold on to him for another 10 games and see how he goes, but I'm currently tied for 1st so I cant carry dead-weight all year.

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10 Team Roto Keeper League; 20 Keepers; Start 3C,3LW,3RW,1U,5D,2G
Stats: G,A,Pts,ppg,ppa,pims,+/- ; W,sv%,svs
C: Sedin, Kopitar, Krejci, J.Stall, Stastny, Galchenyuk
LW: Sedin, Hall, Vanek, Prust, Dubinsky
RW: Seguin, Pacioretty, Clarkson, Kassian
D: Subban, Doughty, Kronwall, J.Johnson, Faulk
G: Price, Quick, Varlamov, Vokoun

You need look no further than this to know why McBain has disappointed because, not only does he not get rewarded with PP, he is likely getting reprimanded by Maurice. He hates guys that falter in their own end.

Great to hear a post from someone that has watched their games.

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10 Team Salary Cap Keeper League-protect up to 15
Total of points and +/-; position vs. position
(ie. my 2 Centres vs. his 2 Centres)
C -Cammalleri, Ribeiro, Thornton, Dalpe
LW -Ennis, McDonald, Neal, Kulemin
RW -Kovalchuk, Briere, Omark, Alferdsson
D -Blum, Pronger, Hamonic, Keith,Yandle
G -Varlamov, S. Mason, Crawford, Miller

Nice info on the PP %'s. Not aware. Gee, sooner or later McBain may get a shot.

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15 team keeper league
F - P.Marleau, B.Richards, Heatley, T. Fleishmann, Langenbrunner, T. Holmstrom, R.Whitney, Cheechoo, Voracek, Little, T. Ruutu, Kessel,
D - Boyle, Weber, A. Edler, Zidlicky, J. Wisniewski, Kubina
G - M. Kiprusoff, S. Varlamov, P. Rinne
Farm: E.Karlsson, Carlson, Grabner, Repik

Be patient with him, his long term potential is very good - last season he was gangbusters for a very short stretch and that has exaggerated expectations for a lot of people.

Give him time, he isn't Drew Doughty. I think he will be a very solid two-way defenceman - I would compare his fantasy potential to that of Edler - 50+ upside. It will take a few years.

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16 Tm Dynasty,DailyH2H
3C,6W,4D,1G;G,A,PIM,+/-,STP,SOG,Hits,FOW,W,SO,GA,S
C-Kopitar,Carter,Zajac,Bailey
W-Perry,Parise,Neal,Oshie,JvR,Clarkson,M.Foligno,Sil vferberg,Chiasson
D-Yandle,J.Johnson,Carlson,Nikitin,Dillon,Barrie
G-Ward,Bernier
Fm-Holland,Shore,Pulkkinen,Teravainen,Jensen,Rundblad,Morrow,Barber io,Krug

10 Tm-8F,4D,2G Weekly
F-Stamkos,MSL,E.Staal,Toews,Seguin,Duchene,E.Kane,St epan,J.Staal,Brown,Silfverberg,Johansen
D-Keith,Seabrook,Voynov,Bogo,Wideman,Fowler
G-Price,Rask,Dubnyk
Fm-Tarasenko,Scheifele,Atkinson,Faksa,Smith,Orlov,Rie lly,Trouba,Markstrom

That's a good point BUT I need all 10 fingers to count the amount of giveaways Corvo makes in his own zone on a nightly basis, and he's always been that way.

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10 Team Roto Keeper League; 20 Keepers; Start 3C,3LW,3RW,1U,5D,2G
Stats: G,A,Pts,ppg,ppa,pims,+/- ; W,sv%,svs
C: Sedin, Kopitar, Krejci, J.Stall, Stastny, Galchenyuk
LW: Sedin, Hall, Vanek, Prust, Dubinsky
RW: Seguin, Pacioretty, Clarkson, Kassian
D: Subban, Doughty, Kronwall, J.Johnson, Faulk
G: Price, Quick, Varlamov, Vokoun

No ya don't!! I just checked NHL.com stats and unless you lost a finger in a terrible construction accident (sorry if you really did!), you don't need all 10 fingers.

Covo has 9 Giveaways on the season, tied with Tim Gleason for the Canes lead. That is way way off the NHL Giveaway leader...drum roll please....Duncan Keith, who has committed 24 Giveaways according to NHL.com.

Do we consider Keith a bad defenseman now? Of course not. I question what constitutes a Giveaway/Takeaway/Hit/Blocked Shot/Face-off Win. They are left up to the official scorers at the home rinks, so I take all those stats with a grain of salt.

The kicker for me is that I watch enough Canes games to know that Corvo is amongst the top minute getter on that team and is almost always out there when the game is on the line (either down or up by one goal). He has earned the coaches trust, even if he commits the odd turnover.

Edit: Totally forgot what this thread is on...McBain! I saw that Carolina went out and brought back BOTH Corvo and Babchuk, and they already had Pitkanen and McBain. That's 1 or 2 too many offensive D types, so I traded McBain for roto-stud Steve Downie. I am very happy I made that deal.

I also think McBain is going to be a stud in the very near future, but the blueline is crowded in Carolina at the moment.

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12 Team "Experts" Roto representing Dobberhockey 2nd
G,A,PPP,+/-,SOG,Hits,Blocks,Wins,GAA,SV% - Keep 4
4C-Kopitar,M.Koivu,Stepan,Matthias,Prospal
4L-Marleau,Steen,M.Foligno,N.Foligno,Morrow,Umberger
4R-Hossa,Hornqvist,Little,Alfredsson,Oshie
6D-Byfuglien,Phaneuf,Doughty,J.Johnson,Burns,Wideman, Kostka,Methot
2G-M.Smith,Backstrom,Reimer

12 Team Salary Cap Roto Dynasty 3rd (G,A,Pts,FPts,DPts,Pim,SOG,H,BS,W+OTL+SO,GAA,SV%)
12F-Ovechkin,Kopitar,P&E Kane,Kessel,Ryan,M&N Foligno,Ennis,Hodgson,Killorn,Horton,Wolski,Morrow ,Bonino
6D-Subban,J.Johnson,Carle,Wizniewski,Franson,Spurgeon ,Kostka,M.Fraser
2G-Rask,Anderson,Emery
Farm-Markstrom,Scrivens,Brunner,Nyquist,G.Bourque,B.Con nolly,T.Barrie,Brennan,Barberio,Orlov