I have a feeling I won\'t be the only one dealing with this problem in leagues where you must declare forwards separate from defencemen.

If a guy is playing both forward and defence, how should I declare each guy before rosters must be submitted?
I\'m thinking of a guy like Fedorov who may end up playing d-man where he has a lot of value... more than if he was listed as a forward.

Another guy of the top of my head is Mark Streit.

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our league has taken the position that a player\'s position is determined by what that player is listed as on the team\'s official website at the start of the preseason. If a player changes position throughout the year, we just live with the consequences, good or bad. Our league only differentiates between Forward and Defense, so changing wings or center has no impact for us.

Wade Belak is another.

Declare him as a forward and then play him as a forward when you know he will play D would be my thinking, unless you have better options that day at forward.

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GS, W, L, SV, GAA, SV%, SO G, A, P, +/-, PIM, SOG, GWG, PPP, SHP, HITS, FOW

3C: H. Sedin,Stepan, Stastny, R. Johansen, Hanzal, Anisimov,
3LW: Burrows, Vanek, Ott, Lupul, Dubinsky
3RW: Doan, Pavelski, Brown, Okposo,
6D: Franson, Doughty, Voynov, Subban, Markov, Gonchar, Karlsson
1Util:
2G: Price, Emery


Farm: (< 100 games): S. Elliott, J. Bernier, Galchenyuk, Etem, Eakin, Atkinson

our league has taken the position that a player\'s position is determined by what that player is listed as on the team\'s official website at the start of the preseason. If a player changes position throughout the year, we just live with the consequences, good or bad. Our league only differentiates between Forward and Defense, so changing wings or center has no impact for us.

Wade Belak is another.

It all depends on what software your league uses for your scoring.

Most leagues use established sites like Yahoo, ESPN, etc that have strict position elig rules for where a player qualifies.

Find out those rules and plan accordingly, the same as you would in a league that had 3 C, 3 LW, 3 RW, 6 D, 2 G.

In the case of forwards qualifying with D, I think you are wasting your time as there are maybe 2 or 3 guys that might qualify and even then won\'t do so until they start a significant amount of games at the secondary position.

Basically it does little to alter their value as they won\'t likely qualify for some time at the new position.

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C-Sedin,Kopitar,Sharp
LW-Ovechkin,Sedin,E Kane
RW-Franzen,Pavelski,J Williams
F-Weiss,Frolik,Hejduk
D-Byfuglien,Streit,Shattenkirk,Zidlicky,Johnson,McQu aid
G-Bryzgalov,Remier
BN-Montoya,Radulov,Comeau
Minors
JPAnderson,Barrie,Bowman,Braun,Burmistrov,Butler,C alvert,Clifford,Eakin,RJohansen,Knight,Kuemper,Kla sen,Kuznetsov,Marcinin,Martinez,Paajarvi,Palushaj, Lack,Rynnas,BSchenn,Scandella,Smith-Pelly,Rask,York

Here\'s the thing... once a player is declared a d-man, then they stay that way for the rest of the year.
We won\'t be changing our player\'s positions daily or anything like that.

We have a very deep draft (over 700 players taken) so dressing a guy like Fedorov (who may not play many games on D) on defence and protecting another forward to take his place could mean the difference of 50 pts. while taking the worst defenceman off your roster.

That could be a huge difference in a big pool!

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So if the player\'s majority position (the one he starts the year as) is unchangeable in your league, what the hell is the point of this thread.

You personally can\'t declare a player elig for a position based on assumptions that he\'ll play there eventually. (any league that would allow you to declare say, Federov, @ D based on last yrs emergency/experiment is retarded)

Basically in any league that is organized you use the listed majority position for a player. During the yr sometimes those positions change and the player is given DUAL elig. If your league declares pos elig @ the start and unchanges it as you go then this whole concept doesn\'t apply to your league as I would assume you can\'t randomly assign any F to D, and since there isn\'t any real F/D combo players in terms of significant time @ both positions this entire thread (according to your league settings) is a waste of time.

You can\'t predict dual elig, which is why it is awarded as the season goes and situations change. If your league doesn\'t allow you to adapt your players accordingly during the yr, and the actual original position would never be lost from the team website ads it would remain the primary. The team might adjust the position to read F/D on the website id sason, but your league would be completely unaffected IMO as the payers never lose anything, they simply gain.
Post edited by: crazedcanuck, at: 2007/09/12 23:13

Post edited by: crazedcanuck, at: 2007/09/12 23:39

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Barrie Beavers
C-Sedin,Kopitar,Sharp
LW-Ovechkin,Sedin,E Kane
RW-Franzen,Pavelski,J Williams
F-Weiss,Frolik,Hejduk
D-Byfuglien,Streit,Shattenkirk,Zidlicky,Johnson,McQu aid
G-Bryzgalov,Remier
BN-Montoya,Radulov,Comeau
Minors
JPAnderson,Barrie,Bowman,Braun,Burmistrov,Butler,C alvert,Clifford,Eakin,RJohansen,Knight,Kuemper,Kla sen,Kuznetsov,Marcinin,Martinez,Paajarvi,Palushaj, Lack,Rynnas,BSchenn,Scandella,Smith-Pelly,Rask,York

trouble wrote:
This is how my league treats this situation too. I had Christoph Schubert playing as a d-man all last season.

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Goals = 1 point, Assists = 1/2 point, Goals Against = -1/2 point

Fowards: S. Stamkos, M. Hossa, A. Hemsky, J. Neal, M. Grabovski, M. Read, J. Jokinen, P. Berglund, M. Hanzal, N. Foligno, B. Wheeler, S. Matthias, G. Latendresse, L. Stempniak

D-men: S. Weber, PK Subban, D. Phaneuf, D. Hamhuis, T. Gilbert, M. Staal, A. Sekera, M. Niskanen, TJ Brodie, N. Prosser, C. Tanev, K. Cumiskey, M. Flood

Goalies: Nashville, Chicago, Boston

Farm: D. Rundblad, D. Orlov, B. Smith (DET), J. Muzzin, MA Bourdon, R. Smith, C. Emmerton, A. Lander, M. Reinhart, M. Mayorov, I. Makarov, P. Maroon