So, here is the situation. There are a good amount of guys worth taking in the waiver draft for my league. I could really use a replacement for Teemu and Sykora seems to fit the bill. I have the #1 draft pick in the waiver as the winner of my league last season, BUT I feel that I might get Sykora lower in the draft, because everybody is talking about guys like Straka, J. Blake, Tucker and Koivu. I have an offer on the table to receive the #7 and #15 (both in the first round) in exchange for my #1. The problem is that these guys are very knowledgeable and I feel I might miss out on Sykora by going so low. The next best RW\'s are Guerin, Knuble, Kovalev, Ryder. BUT I would also get pick #15 in exchange and might be able to pick up a good D-man (Ballard, Beauchemin, Bergeron, Martin) or even a bad starting goaltender or a good backup goaltender (Aebischer, Cloutier, LaBarbera, Bryzgalov, Nitty, Holmqvist, Gerber). Here is my keeper team right now and obviously my biggest worry is RW with Teemu possibly being a waste:

C: Thornton, Briere, Sundin, Pavelski
LW: D. Sedin, Brunette, Morrow
RW: Selanne, PM Bouchard, Recchi
D: T. Kaberle, P. Boucher, Schneider
G: Luongo, Budaj, Rinne
Farm: Setoguchi, Vasyunov, Bolland, O\'Marra, Eller, Anisimov, Mursak, Brassard, J. Bernier

SO do you think I should stick with the #1 pick, take Sykora and hope that I can get some of these other necessary pieces at picks #29, #31 and #32 or should I trade it and have a chance of missing Sykora, but get another first round pick at the same time?

tuff call. i know one thing for sure, if i planned on going after a guy in the draft that i thot others might be interested in, i sure wouldn\'t mention him or tell the others how good i thot he was. how can you know for sure the others aren\'t hoping you will think they want the lesser guys then as soon as you pass on the 1st sykora will get scooped up.

if these guys are knowledgable like you said then it\'s a dam good bet they now he\'s sitting there. i think the bigger question is are you going for it this year. if so then i\'d prolly take sykora and enjoy the bountiful season he\'s going to have. at the least if you pick him up you could prolly trade him for a wing and D with one of the others after he starts out on fire with sid or malkin.

your not super hurting on C, LW, D or G so you are prolly best to lock him down imo. solidify your RW and then go from there.

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I would have to agree with Flyer for the most part.. If guys in your league are telling you guys they are interested in, they are forsurely not going to mention Sykora because they are hoping you will trade the pick to one of them because they haven\'t mentioned that they would want him. I guarantee somebody is playing you and they want Sykora. I would keep the pick and draft Sykora. I would also see what the other GM\'s are willing to give up for that pick. Maybe you can aquire a Parise or Gionta?? just an example..
Z..

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Thanks guys, I have shopped the pick around and there does not seem to be that much interest as there are a good amount of guys with top level talent, so guys who are sitting in the top five have no reason to move up. Guys who are lower in the draft typically either have more keepers (you are allowed to keep anybody who qualifies as a prospect for free, which includes guys like Malkin, Stastny, Staal, etc.) or have more draft picks in the later rounds. This is the best offer I have come across so far, but I only need an additional five guys to fill out my roster and have seven picks in this draft with four being in the first two rounds. I guess it does seem to make sense to hold onto the pick and take my guy, then hope for the best at the end of the second round when I have three picks in a row basically. Thanks again, you guys have been a big help

No prob Bogans, your team looks to be quite strong.Great D, good scoring power up front and your goalies are strong.. Good luck with your squad this year bud..
Zorro..

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I am curious as to where the replacement 1st round pick would be and who you might land for that #1 pick. you already have Rex at RW off the same team as Sykora - will that create issues for you daily rosters?

Think a little more about this - with that team I would be interested in seeing who you might get for the pick.

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GS, W, L, SV, GAA, SV%, SO G, A, P, +/-, PIM, SOG, GWG, PPP, SHP, HITS, FOW

3C: H. Sedin,Stepan, Stastny, R. Johansen, Hanzal, Anisimov,
3LW: Burrows, Vanek, Ott, Lupul, Dubinsky
3RW: Doan, Pavelski, Brown, Okposo,
6D: Franson, Doughty, Voynov, Subban, Markov, Gonchar, Karlsson
1Util:
2G: Price, Emery


Farm: (< 100 games): S. Elliott, J. Bernier, Galchenyuk, Etem, Eakin, Atkinson

Shoeless wrote:
Well, I have been trying to trade it off, but I do not really seem to be getting any decent offers. The first round of the waiver draft is filled with aging guys who should get close to 70 points if healthy all season and playing up to the level the can like Straka, Koivu, Tucker, Blake, Sykora, even Knuble, Sillinger, Weight, Stoll and Ryder should be in the 60s. Then there are some younger guys with potential like Weiss and Lombardi, so there are plenty of decent first round selections with very little drop off from the top to the bottom. For this reason, I suspect, people have not been willing to give up much. The draft is on the 27th, so maybe when it comes closer to the draft and people notice one particular guy they want I might be able to get more, we\'ll see.

I don\'t think it should be too big of a deal having two of my RWs on the same team, obviously not the optimal situation, but if you have to do it, the best team to choose would definitely be the Penguins. But we do have a Utility forward position to slot an extra RW into if necessary anyway.

As I said the offer that I got so far was #7 and #15 for my #1. The way I see it the first six off the board are probably Straka, Koivu, Blake, Sykora, Tucker and maybe Ryder or somebody, unless somebody goes goalie or defense, which is possible, but I still doubt Sykora slips to me at #7.

If I keep #1 I will solidify my RW position with Sykora, Bouchard and Rex, pretty decent. If I trade it I will probably get somebody like Ryder at RW, so it will be weaker with Bouchard, Ryder, Rex, plus I will also get probably a decent backup goaltender or a good defenseman, which I believe I should still be able to get with three back to back picks at the end of the second round. But if I could get a guy like Weiss or Lombardi or even a possible sleeper candidate like Samsonov, White or Ponikarovsky would it be worth it to give up Sykora?

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Post edited by: bogans, at: 2007/08/08 10:01

Frankly I think having that additional 1st round pick might work better for you depth wise but presently it is a close call over having Sykora. Think you are right to wait this one out and let it be known that the 1st pick is negotiable.

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GS, W, L, SV, GAA, SV%, SO G, A, P, +/-, PIM, SOG, GWG, PPP, SHP, HITS, FOW

3C: H. Sedin,Stepan, Stastny, R. Johansen, Hanzal, Anisimov,
3LW: Burrows, Vanek, Ott, Lupul, Dubinsky
3RW: Doan, Pavelski, Brown, Okposo,
6D: Franson, Doughty, Voynov, Subban, Markov, Gonchar, Karlsson
1Util:
2G: Price, Emery


Farm: (< 100 games): S. Elliott, J. Bernier, Galchenyuk, Etem, Eakin, Atkinson

Shoeless wrote:
This is precisely where being the winner of the league in the previous year hurts, everybody seems to think I know something more than them and am out to screw them. I bet anybody else having the first waiver draft pick with the guys available that are available, would have received many good offers by now, but guys seem to think that me trading something means I know something more, which is pretty much never true