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Old 03-19-2013, 05:44 PM
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I'm in first right now, and points transfer over in trades. So I need to hold onto Kunitz until the end of the season at least. And I think I have a good enough team to win again next year, so 60-70 points from him is all I need.
Oh, ok. That definitely changes things. I think somewhere in the 60 pt range is what you can expect next year.

I'd keep the better keeper, and I think that's Kane by a good bit. I'd keep him over Purcell too.
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I think Purcell can be a consistent 65-to-70-point guy, and is already there. I don't known if Kadri can keep up his current pace, and Kane hasn't hit that mark yet. If I want to win next year, Purcell is a better choice right now.
Gonna agree to disagree majorly on this one. Time will tell I suppose.
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Thanks everyone for the advice. I did decide to deal Kane. I ended up trading him and two late picks for a second round this year and a second round next year. Second round picks in our last draft were Hartnell, Hamilton, Voynov, Schwartz, etc., so there's some pretty good talent available there.

So with the move, I can protect Kadri instead, and get a couple of good players in the draft. Or, if need be, trade those picks for help this year to hold on to my lead if second place makes a charge (guys are already thinking of dropping players in the offseason, so the market for picks is higher than the market for players right now).

Thanks again all.
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you sold kane way too low imo
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you sold kane way too low imo
I sure don't agree with that assessment but I sure like your earlier posts in the thread.

Coming on the trade deadline in a points only league, I think he cashed nicely. Basically he got Kadri and 2 pretty sweet picks for 2013 and 1 for 2014. In limited keepers those picks are very important for stoking the depth you need to keep winning. Yeah in other leagues it probably isn't such a good deal for Kane but in this case, I quite like the move.
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I sure don't agree with that assessment but I sure like your earlier posts in the thread.

Coming on the trade deadline in a points only league, I think he cashed nicely. Basically he got Kadri and 2 pretty sweet picks for 2013 and 1 for 2014. In limited keepers those picks are very important for stoking the depth you need to keep winning. Yeah in other leagues it probably isn't such a good deal for Kane but in this case, I quite like the move.
he already had kadri and from what i am reading he got 1 pick in 13 and 1 pick in 14 both in the second round

he traded another team a keeper and neither upgraded his keeper nor got a first round pick out of the deal

to me this is a deal he could have gotten in the offseason prior to declaring keepers but he gave up production the rest of the way for a couple of 2nd rounders

and that is not even getting into the whole purcell thing

i just feel that this was a low sell on someone with kanes upside

sometimes the right move is throwing the player into the pot rather than making a trade that doesnt make enough sense and to me this trade just didnt make enough sense
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he already had kadri and from what i am reading he got 1 pick in 13 and 1 pick in 14 both in the second round

he traded another team a keeper and neither upgraded his keeper nor got a first round pick out of the deal

to me this is a deal he could have gotten in the offseason prior to declaring keepers but he gave up production the rest of the way for a couple of 2nd rounders

and that is not even getting into the whole purcell thing

i just feel that this was a low sell on someone with kanes upside

sometimes the right move is throwing the player into the pot rather than making a trade that doesnt make enough sense and to me this trade just didnt make enough sense
I couldn't have gotten a first round pick, and I already tried to upgrade my keepers in a move for Kane. I talked to every GM in the league about Kane at some point in the last month, and the next best offer I had was a third round pick next year.

By comparison, last week, Quick was dealt straight up for a second rounder. So to get what I did for Kane was massive.

I had no takers for Kadri. So trading him wasn't an option.

With my pool, the closer we get to the drop deadline, the less you can get for guys, even though that deadline is months away. For example, the guy who offered me the third rounder would have had a choice to drop Kane or Jordan Staal. As we got closer to the offseason, that offer would get worse, as he would probably think it wasn't worth it to drop Staal in favour of Kane and lose a third-round pick.

Also, Kane wasn't counting for me in the pool, which is why I made him available.

My final thought process was this: I'm in first place this year, and want to try and win again next year. I have no doubt that three, four, five years from now, Kane will be better than Purcell. But the rest of this year and next year? I don't think he will be. I think Purcell will get more points. Kadri and Kane will be close next year, but if I get more for Kane, it's better to make that deal.

I do appreciate all the input from everyone. I'm glad other people are as passionate about my team as I am. :-)
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if you are happy with it that is all that really matters
^ What he said. I like the return you got, but like I said earlier I still personally would have just gone Kadri and Kane. Kadri is already proving me right and I think Kane will too but I can see why you came the decision you did as well.

Hope it works out for ya!
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