Sorry..."Ill Advised" where your words. But sounds like you've changed your tune now. That's fine.

I'm not comparing him to Eric. There is no comparison there. What I did say is that if it weren't for Eric, I don't feel Jordan gets the kinda of exposure that he does.

I never said The Sedin's were not Elite...I DID say that I felt Eric was better than both twins...Much like I expect you would say Crosby and Malkin are Better than both twins and Eric. The Elite club you speak of must be exclusive, but does include people other than Crosby/Malkin and the Twins IMO.

"as for not taking him on your team that is the definition of hatred"
yeah...we have different definiations of Hatred apparently too.

Infact...can you please point me to any part of this thread where I said that I HATE Jordan Staal? Those where your words fella.

Your obsession with making this about Hatred is what I find Disturbing. I just don't like the J. Staal as a fantasy asset and find him grossly over rated by many people in the forum. But that's totally your opinion and your entitled to that.

I did say...
"Don't waste you time with J. Staal" - My Opinion
"IF his name was Jordan "Smith"...rather than "Staal"...we he wouldn't get ANY exposure here" - My Opinion
"I just don't like this Staal brother. He's a Staal in name only as far as I'm concerned" - My Opinion

"Cursing lineage...Shitting on porches and constant use of the word HATE"...that's all you man.

So, back to the main question for "IWANTTOKNOW":

I say trading J. Staal for Sharpe isn't worth it because I feel J. Staal is Grossly over rated.

And you? Have you changed your tune from when you said "trading sharp for staal is just ill advised"

So which is it?

We're clearly not going to agree on J. Staal's Fantasy Value. Have him on your team, I don't want him on mine. Doesn't mean I hate him, just means I'd take everyone of my current keeper forwards (which Sharpe WOULD BE if I had him) over J. Staal today and 3 years down the road.

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Team:
C - Tavares, Getzlaf, Ribeiro, (C/R)
L - Hall, Semin, Macdonald(C/L), Healtey(L/R),
R - Perry, Yakupov, Voracek, Voracek, Williams, Boyes
D - Streit, OEL, Edler, Karlsson, B. Smith, Beauchemin, Seidenberg
G - Rinne, Bryzgalov, Anderson, Bernier, Vokoun
10 Team Keeper league with Yahoo

Roster (14 Kept Players): C, C, LW, LW, RW, RW, D, D, D, D, Util, Util, G, G,

(Weighted Category Points: see below).

Skaters -
(Points: G a/o A) 6
(+/-) 3
(PIM) 1
(PPP) 5
(GWG) 5

Goaltenders
(W) 15
(GA) -10
(SV) 1
(SHO) 15

ill advised to me is completely different from clear cut

as for your hatred for staal i am not the only one who noticed it others have noticed and commented

whatever though no point getting into it with you you have a clear agenda against jordan staal here and there is no discussion to be had with someone who has an agenda

This is comical.

I do not like J. Staal as a fantasy hockey asset.
I feel he is over rated by many people on the boards and his last name gets him more expose than what he may deseve.
none of what I have said is a reflection on him personally or undercuting the role he plays in real life which may or may not Impact his fantasy relevance.
I by-passed him in the draft and have 0 regrets at this point in the season as I feel I have better assets on my team now.
I certainly would not trade Sharpe for him straight up in fantasy. Seems I'm not the only one who feels that way on this thread.

If you feel this demonstrates hate and having an agenda...well then thats your interpretation. I don't hate anyone...let alone Staal. What a waste of energy Lucifer. But thats just my opinion.



And

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Team:
C - Tavares, Getzlaf, Ribeiro, (C/R)
L - Hall, Semin, Macdonald(C/L), Healtey(L/R),
R - Perry, Yakupov, Voracek, Voracek, Williams, Boyes
D - Streit, OEL, Edler, Karlsson, B. Smith, Beauchemin, Seidenberg
G - Rinne, Bryzgalov, Anderson, Bernier, Vokoun
10 Team Keeper league with Yahoo

Roster (14 Kept Players): C, C, LW, LW, RW, RW, D, D, D, D, Util, Util, G, G,

(Weighted Category Points: see below).

Skaters -
(Points: G a/o A) 6
(+/-) 3
(PIM) 1
(PPP) 5
(GWG) 5

Goaltenders
(W) 15
(GA) -10
(SV) 1
(SHO) 15

these are your words arent they

Yup...I did say that.

In reference to the fact that if it wasn't for his last name, I personally don't think he'd garner the attention that he does get on here.

EDIT:
But if you are suggesting that by saying "I just don't don't like this Staal Brother" suggest that I somehow "hate" him personally? Dude...you totally missread my intention.

Maybe I should have qualified that by stating the "I just don't Like this Staal Brother...as a Fantasy PLayer".

then... Some people, I feel, Are drinking the Koolaid and equating him to his older Brother because he is a STAAL. If he wasn't for his name (the Name that Eric has vaulted into hockey relevance) I don't feel Jordan gets as much attention.

I don't like him as a fantasy asset as much as others seem to.

Is that clearer?

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Team:
C - Tavares, Getzlaf, Ribeiro, (C/R)
L - Hall, Semin, Macdonald(C/L), Healtey(L/R),
R - Perry, Yakupov, Voracek, Voracek, Williams, Boyes
D - Streit, OEL, Edler, Karlsson, B. Smith, Beauchemin, Seidenberg
G - Rinne, Bryzgalov, Anderson, Bernier, Vokoun
10 Team Keeper league with Yahoo

Roster (14 Kept Players): C, C, LW, LW, RW, RW, D, D, D, D, Util, Util, G, G,

(Weighted Category Points: see below).

Skaters -
(Points: G a/o A) 6
(+/-) 3
(PIM) 1
(PPP) 5
(GWG) 5

Goaltenders
(W) 15
(GA) -10
(SV) 1
(SHO) 15

no one in this thread equated him to his brother but you from what i have seen

Blanket statement Lucifer.

Steming out of the question of Staal for Sharpe.

And further more..."I Just don't like this Staal Brother" does not translate to "I don't think this Staal Brother is as good as any of the other Staal Brothers". It may suggest that I like another Staal better, but that wasn't the point. "I just don't like this Staal Brother"...could mean, I just don't like Jordan Staal as a fantasy asset. I don't feel he's as valuable as other people and if it weren't for his last name, he woudn't garner the attention that he gets.

A) I Made it clear that I didn't think like this trade...and then
B) I made the statement that I feel Many people "in general", over value Jordan Staal because of his last name. Not necessarily in this thread, but in general. You may not agree with me, but that's how I feel

This is not the first time or first thread that I have stated that I don't understand why certain people value Jordan Staal from a fantasy perspective.

Maybe this statement belonged in "General Hockey Talk" and not in a thread about Staal for Sharpe.

But whatever. You're simply mistaken in your interpretation of my message. Maybe I"m to blame for it, but regardless, you're interpretation of my message is incorrect.

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Team:
C - Tavares, Getzlaf, Ribeiro, (C/R)
L - Hall, Semin, Macdonald(C/L), Healtey(L/R),
R - Perry, Yakupov, Voracek, Voracek, Williams, Boyes
D - Streit, OEL, Edler, Karlsson, B. Smith, Beauchemin, Seidenberg
G - Rinne, Bryzgalov, Anderson, Bernier, Vokoun
10 Team Keeper league with Yahoo

Roster (14 Kept Players): C, C, LW, LW, RW, RW, D, D, D, D, Util, Util, G, G,

(Weighted Category Points: see below).

Skaters -
(Points: G a/o A) 6
(+/-) 3
(PIM) 1
(PPP) 5
(GWG) 5

Goaltenders
(W) 15
(GA) -10
(SV) 1
(SHO) 15

Again, not to lose sight of the question...by my count

5 people would NOT trade their Sharpe for J. Staal
2 people would take Sharpe over Staal over 1-2 years...Staal 3 years down the road..

Lucifer, if we can look past all this irrelevant banter, I'm still not sure of your stance on the actual question...Would you trade Sharpe for Staal?

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Team:
C - Tavares, Getzlaf, Ribeiro, (C/R)
L - Hall, Semin, Macdonald(C/L), Healtey(L/R),
R - Perry, Yakupov, Voracek, Voracek, Williams, Boyes
D - Streit, OEL, Edler, Karlsson, B. Smith, Beauchemin, Seidenberg
G - Rinne, Bryzgalov, Anderson, Bernier, Vokoun
10 Team Keeper league with Yahoo

Roster (14 Kept Players): C, C, LW, LW, RW, RW, D, D, D, D, Util, Util, G, G,

(Weighted Category Points: see below).

Skaters -
(Points: G a/o A) 6
(+/-) 3
(PIM) 1
(PPP) 5
(GWG) 5

Goaltenders
(W) 15
(GA) -10
(SV) 1
(SHO) 15