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Old 03-07-2013, 02:34 PM
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What are you basing that bold statement on? Are you referring to the MONSTROUS two point lead that Crosby has over Stamkos in the scoring lead?
I'm basing it on the fact that he's far and away the best player in the world....need more than that? I watch him every chance I get for that simple reason. This isn't a bold statement at all from what I can tell, it's very simple and plain for most to see. He dominates a game more than any player on the face of the earth. Stamkos is an imense talent but he's not capable of generating an entire offense by himself the way Crosby is. Crosby's linemates are the great Dupuis and Kunitz...yeah.....40-50 point players who get to ride the coat tails of the best player in the world.

That petty little 120 points is 23 more points that Stakmos has ever scored so I'm not sure where you're going with that, you've simply re-inforced that Crosby is the best or are you suggesting that Stamkos is due to break out for 120? Furthermore, Crosby has surpassed the 100 point plateau FOUR times already in seven years and the other three he was injured. So, when Crosby plays he's the best player in the world. The ONLY case that can be made against him are health concerns so keep the argument there if you must because at least it holds some weight but when you venture into comparing Stamkos to Crosby in terms of skill even Stamkos would laugh at you.
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I'm sorry but anyone that takes anyone over Crosby is craaaaazy. I guess there's an argument to be made for "Well Stamkos hasn't been super concussed before, so there's that".

But otherwise, yeah, you're crazy. For a variety of reasons. Whatever makes you feel better though
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The ONLY case that can be made against him are health concerns so keep the argument there if you must because at least it holds some weight but when you venture into comparing Stamkos to Crosby in terms of skill even Stamkos would laugh at you.
When did I compare them in terms of skill? Was I not clear enough when I stated that Crosby is the best player in the world? Thanks for countering an argument that nobody even brought up. Great insights there.

You can talk about dominating the game till you're blue in the face... I don't really care. I'm talking about fantasy hockey, and for all that "dominating", Crosby has a whopping 2 point lead to show over Stamkos. He has scored 120 points once in his career. Other than that, he's shown he has a 10 point edge over Stamkos WHEN he's healthy. That doesn't do it for me. Maybe in a one-year, but definitely not a keeper. The risk/reward proposition favours Stamkos.
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I'm basing it on the fact that he's far and away the best player in the world....need more than that? I watch him every chance I get for that simple reason. This isn't a bold statement at all from what I can tell, it's very simple and plain for most to see. He dominates a game more than any player on the face of the earth. Stamkos is an imense talent but he's not capable of generating an entire offense by himself the way Crosby is. Crosby's linemates are the great Dupuis and Kunitz...yeah.....40-50 point players who get to ride the coat tails of the best player in the world.

That petty little 120 points is 23 more points that Stakmos has ever scored so I'm not sure where you're going with that, you've simply re-inforced that Crosby is the best or are you suggesting that Stamkos is due to break out for 120? Furthermore, Crosby has surpassed the 100 point plateau FOUR times already in seven years and the other three he was injured. So, when Crosby plays he's the best player in the world. The ONLY case that can be made against him are health concerns so keep the argument there if you must because at least it holds some weight but when you venture into comparing Stamkos to Crosby in terms of skill even Stamkos would laugh at you.
I don't think anybody is arguing that Stamkos is actually a better player than Crosby. The OP asked for the top 10 Keeper League Centers in FANTASY hockey. I still rank Crosby ahead of Stamkos just because of what he is capable of too, but if you look at the numbers, Stamkos has averaged 52 goals and 94 points over the past three seasons. Crosby? 30 and 71. You don't win leagues with injured players who have great PPG ratios. It's a testament to just how good Crosby is though, that most people still rank him as the number one fantasy center.
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Old 03-07-2013, 03:40 PM
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i like blayze's list with an HM to JStaal as well as Benn, who could just as easily be in 10th, but its tough to leave out PDats. Backstrom just isnt in this class anymore but gets an HM in my book. Kopitar should get an HM too.
THis may be my biggest character flaw...but I don't see or understand all the hype behind J. Staal. Honestly...if he wasn't Eric's brother...I doubt he gets ANY attention what so ever. Speaking stricktly from a Fantasy perspective.

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When did I compare them in terms of skill? Was I not clear enough when I stated that Crosby is the best player in the world? Thanks for countering an argument that nobody even brought up. Great insights there.

You can talk about dominating the game till you're blue in the face... I don't really care. I'm talking about fantasy hockey, and for all that "dominating", Crosby has a whopping 2 point lead to show over Stamkos. He has scored 120 points once in his career. Other than that, he's shown he has a 10 point edge over Stamkos WHEN he's healthy. That doesn't do it for me. Maybe in a one-year, but definitely not a keeper. The risk/reward proposition favours Stamkos.
OK Blaze, lets track this tiny 2 point lead throughout this year. It stands at 4 now and will continue to expand as the year progresses.

Anyway, your argument was extremely tangential for someone attempting to say that Crosby IS in fact the best player in the world. Usually these sorts of arguments are not supported by a paragraph of undermining the players accomplishments. If your argument was simply that you don't trust Crosby's health then that could have been stated clearly in about one sentence. There, my face is officially blue

So you prefer Stamkos but concede that Crosby is the best player in the world. Well, you're nuts but even crazy people are entitled to their opinions
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I don't think anybody is arguing that Stamkos is actually a better player than Crosby. The OP asked for the top 10 Keeper League Centers in FANTASY hockey. I still rank Crosby ahead of Stamkos just because of what he is capable of too, but if you look at the numbers, Stamkos has averaged 52 goals and 94 points over the past three seasons. Crosby? 30 and 71. You don't win leagues with injured players who have great PPG ratios. It's a testament to just how good Crosby is though, that most people still rank him as the number one fantasy center.
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