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Old 02-08-2013, 01:09 PM
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I've been offered two trades, both one for one.

Campbell for Yandle

Heatley for RNH

should i take either of these deals?
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I've been offered two trades, both one for one.

Campbell for Yandle

Heatley for RNH

should i take either of these deals?

A big NO on both of those.
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Old 02-08-2013, 01:44 PM
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In a 1-year league I personally make the Heater for your RNH swap. You only start 2-C and you have two better C than RNH so when they all play on the same night RNH is riding your pine and you're losing out on his production. I like Heater more than Brunner and Voracek this year so he'd slot in your RW2 spot so even if all of your RW play on a given night you're have a better team with rostering Heater than the other two.

As for Campbell vs Yandle. Keeper it's a definite no but in a 1-year league it's very close. I personally would ride out Yandle even though he's off to a slow start.
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Old 02-08-2013, 01:47 PM
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To further my point if you start Toews/Tavares every night you can that means RNH will sit on your bench 11 times. There are 11 nights in which all three of these teams play. 11 games in a 48 games season is almost 25% of his games being eating up on the bench.

Go with Heater.
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In a one-year league, these offers aren't that bad. I don't take the Heatley/RNH deal though.

But the Campbell/Yandle deal intrigues me. I would lean towards Yandle, but look at the following breakdown:

Yandle produces more G, PIM, +/-, SOG
Campbell produces more A, PPP, Hits

Neither hold huge advantages in any category but Yandle wins the overall cat count 4-3. I would consider Campbell only if you seriously need PPP or Assists and figure you can take small hits in the other categories.
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kenzle1r, did you notice he has 2 Utility spots? Does this change your opinion?
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No, neither deal is good for you at all. The fact that he has 2 UTIL spots makes kenzle1r's point a moot one.
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I'd still make the RNH for Heater deal. Just looking at your wing players, I'd say Heatley would be more useful to you than RNH.

I wouldn't do the Yandle deal, too lateral IMO.
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I didn't see the 2x Utility spots. I think I still make the deal for Heater though as he's a scorer who should fill in more G and SOG. Then he has a good chance at having a better +/- and without doing any research I'd guess he'll land more PIMs (but I'm literally guessing here).

RNH is an absolute elite talent I just don't think he's going to "blossom" into that elite talent for another couple years. So his pts totals should be very similar to Heater's this year but Heater fills in more cats and does offer more value being RW instead of C.

I still make the deal.
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