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Head hunting a guy because he was excited about scoring a goal... and we say Yakupov is classless?

Oh the irony.
One of the better posts I've seen in a while.

This whole thing is ridiculous. The kid has worked his ass off, made the NHL, and helped his team in absolutely critical moment in front of 20K fans that just finished losing it on the refs for calling back a game-tying goal. He got swept away in the passion of the moment. That's a human response. Calling him a "goof" just sounds petty.

We should celebrate that passion, not chastize him. And if the Kings do indeed "head hunt" the kid, our response should be to severely punish those that would use childish thuggery and violence to get retribution on someone who has done nothing wrong. Hearing about LA headhunting reminds me of Hunter's cheap shot on Turgeon.
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His power slide was better than Crosby's golden goal celebration, where he simply shat himself.


He scored an important goal on home ice at the beginning of his career against the Stanley Cup champions, I would've been exuberant as well.
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Holy shit folks.
THIS IS AN ENTERTAINMENT PRODUCT. That is all the NHL is. That's why it's a business. That's why we line up to see it. The game is changing. Society is changing. If people find it entertaining, let them do it.

You folks denouncing things like "triple-low-fives" and saying Yakupov's celebrations are BS sound like parents in the 50's complaining about Elvis's dancing.
This! A thousand times this!

The NHL gets fewer personalities every year. Soon they will all be media-trained robots like Toews and Crosby. Boring as watching paint dry.

Scoring a goal is one of the best feelings in the world, so when someone does it on the greatest hockey stage in the world, they should damn well be allowed to celebrate how big that is!

But sure, dumb the game down even more. Don Cherry hockey is where it's at! IN THE STONE AGE!

Anyone who complains one iota about ANY scoring celebration is boring and needs to lighten the **** up.
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Do people that rail against excessive celebrating ACTUALLY care? Or do you guys just say it because some old school sense of nobility says you should care? Hockey is a game, it should be fun shouldn't it? When things get purposely disrespectful, ya that's an issue. But when someone is really excited, sometimes they get carried away with their celebration.

As to the Yakupov thing specifically, I will bet you eleventy billion galactic credits that "ya, **** LA! I'm gonna go rub it in their faces!" never crossed his mind. He's a young guy who scored a tying goal with like 1 second left against the reigning Cup champs, I'd be pretty damn pumped too.

This Subban/Price thing is just stupid. It's not even a big enough deal to get worked up over. Sure it's dumb they can't high five each other, but it really doesn't matter.
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I have absolutely no problem with Yakupov's celebration. It's not about disrespect when they do that. He was excited. The only one I think might have been over the top in recent memory is Ovechkin's stick on fire. It was creative and funny, but I could see how people would see disrespect in that.

To be honest, guys who show they're excited and celebrate bring attention to the league and if we're all honest, the league needs as much attention as it can get that's positive in the minds of the sports fan that doesn't see much hockey. His celebration probably made it to ESPN, which is a huge boon for the sport. And when people get interested in it and watch more games, that's only good for the money side of the league. Which, if we remember, we were in a lockout and my hope is that good money (even though I thought it was there before this most recent lockout) could hopefully prevent one in 8 years if we have guys who draw casual and the uninitiated fans.

I dunno what to say to shit like this...,maybe I'm becoming an old crotchedy fart who longs for the 'old days' but when I look at the players from my youth and how they conducted themselves on the ice vs. the ******** you see today, I'll take my old timey hockey over yours any day. Today the NHL is looking more and more like the NBA or the NFL and while I love football, I ****ing despise a good chunk of the selfish, classless players who play the game today. I think its the money that does it, money tends to ruin anything...you take something pure and beautiful and wonderful and you add money to it and soon enough it turns to shit. Personally I'd like to preserve the NHL as long as possibe before it becomes like the NFL or NBA and all about the individual and less about the team and the game.


The Yakupov thing is one of the stupidest, most immature displays of showboating I've seen in years...I mean c'mon grow the hell up junior, you're in the bigs now, behave like a man, not a 14 yr old. If you like that kind of nonsense then you can have it because I think its bullshit. You want an analogy? Its like getting your driver's license for the first time. You can play it cool, roll down the street slowly and nod at the honies and act like you've done it all before. Or, if you're like Yakupov, you can go tearing down the street at 3 times the speed limit, pull some donuts in the parking lot and high five your bros and think you're cool as ****, guess what? you're not, not even close.
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This! A thousand times this!
Agreed, that is such a crucial point that is forgotten because we seem hell-bent on making sports to be so much more than it really is. For the athletes, the sport is central to their identity. And I'll preface this by saying that now that I am in my late 30s I have even more respect for the nearly inhuman levels of self-discipline and dedication that it must take to become a pro-hockey player. However, in the grand scheme of things, pro-sports is an entertainment distraction. It has zero impact on most of the important things in life. Recognizing this leads to the inevitible conclusion that spending time getting upset about PK Subban and Carey Price's post-win ritual is just silly.

Honestly Therrien, dummy up.
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The Crosbys and Toews may be trained robots, but they are respected and they are WINNERS. Guys like Yakupov will always be LOSERS if they keep it up. Ovechkin is a prime example.

there's a difference between celebrating a goal and sliding on your knees for a long period of time/acting like a moron/ignoring your teammates/having all the attention put on you.

I have no problem with showing emotion on the ice and celebrating. But you can cross the line, and Yakupov did it.

Like I said, it doesn't matter what I think, it's the player's peers' opinion that matters.
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A relevant short You Tube clip:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gUyPlvJ-d5M

Even in the "good old days" we had guys doing what people are calling "excessive" celebrating. Back in those days, head-hunting and nasty plays were much more common, yet some of the players still chose to celebrate with sometimes goofy post goal moves.

Not sure how excessive celebrating (without taunting your opponent) when a big goal is scored can be taken as an insult to a professional athlete. Sure, if the score is 7-1 and you go nuts celebrating your 8th goal of the season, then ya, your team mates should just ignore you and head back to the bench.

I don't want to see every goal celebrated like that, but big goals, hey why not?
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The Crosbys and Toews may be trained robots, but they are respected and they are WINNERS. Guys like Yakupov will always be LOSERS if they keep it up. Ovechkin is a prime example.

there's a difference between celebrating a goal and sliding on your knees for a long period of time/acting like a moron/ignoring your teammates/having all the attention put on you.

I have no problem with showing emotion on the ice and celebrating. But you can cross the line, and Yakupov did it.

Like I said, it doesn't matter what I think, it's the player's peers' opinion that matters.
And it's that kind of mentality, along with regular lockouts, that keeps NHL from gaining ground among the pro sports in America. Guys like Roenick, Ovechkin and Hull are good for the league because they have an actual personality. Who cares if they're winners or not? They put butts in the seats. How is that a bad thing? Some misplaced notion about "honor" in a ****ing GAME? Come on...
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A relevant short You Tube clip:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gUyPlvJ-d5M

Even in the "good old days" we had guys doing what people are calling "excessive" celebrating. Back in those days, head-hunting and nasty plays were much more common, yet some of the players still chose to celebrate with sometimes goofy post goal moves.

Not sure how excessive celebrating (without taunting your opponent) when a big goal is scored can be taken as an insult to a professional athlete. Sure, if the score is 7-1 and you go nuts celebrating your 8th goal of the season, then ya, your team mates should just ignore you and head back to the bench.

I don't want to see every goal celebrated like that, but big goals, hey why not?
hell yeah dude Jagr, Hejduk and ****ing Afinogenov are awesome role models for how to behave on the ice, great examples!

Even the 'good' guys in your vid are bogus as examples...Selanne I give a pass because it really wasn't that bad, a little over the top, but not crazy... it was a celebration of him breaking the all time rookie goal scoring record (which is legit cause for some celebration IMO) and he has since not only expressed gross shame at his celebrations back then but he's conducted himself as one of the classiest guys in the league on the way to becoming top 10 all-time in goals scored, not the same at all. And Fleury was celebrating an OT goal in the playoffs (the semis at that!) in the battle of Alberta, its a little over the top but to suggest it is somehow the same as Yakupov behaving like a moron in game 3 of the reg season in a meaningless game is just foolish... and you should know better than to even suggest it.
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I don't remember that many people flipping out about Theo Fluery's celebrations. Why is it different for Yakupov and other young guys?
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