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Old 01-30-2013, 10:09 AM
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Default Neal? Still Top 10? Buy Low?

Offer on the table

Neal, Roy and Garison
for
Clowe, Phaneuf and Andy McDonald

Decent sell high on Clowe and McDonald? Leverage Phaneuf's past value (in hopes to slide OEL into Phaneuf's spot along side Doughty, Edler and maybe Smith?
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Old 01-30-2013, 10:10 AM
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Pittsburgh is in a funk.
They'll shake it.

I'd take the Neal side immediately.
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Old 01-30-2013, 10:14 AM
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i assume you are offering this deal it isnt being offered to you

i dont see how 6 games makes a player a buy low candidate all of a sudden when the entire team is struggling personally

plus he does have 4 goals its not like he is putting up ovechkin numbers
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i assume you are offering this deal it isnt being offered to you

i dont see how 6 games makes a player a buy low candidate all of a sudden when the entire team is struggling personally

plus he does have 4 goals its not like he is putting up ovechkin numbers
Here's the back ground. He made an offer to me last night.
Neal and Howard
for
Tavares and Bryz.

Naturally I declined the offer. I know he made an offer to another GM this morning.
Neal and Garison
for
Lucic and Leddy
(I told this GM who confided in me to take the deal...he hasn't yet.)

So...Given how hot Clowe is and his team...throw in an equally hot MacDonald (neither of whom will be kept for me) and help him upgrade his D with Phaneuf who's struggling but capable of top 10 D fan points,

If he accepts...then I feel I'm selling high on Clowe and MacD...breaking even on Phaneuf ... and therefore buying Low on NEAL. Having made 2 offers in 12 hours, there's gotta be a reason for him wanting to move Neal. Why not benefit. (P.S. This is the Same GM that I was able to acquire Tavares for Dubinsky straight up...and Lost neal to last year when I acquired Ovechkin).
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Old 01-30-2013, 10:23 AM
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oh i am not suggesting you dont try if you have information about this gm souring on neal for some reason

i just dont see how neal is a buy low

good for you if this guy feels he is
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Wow, if that second offer he made to the other GM is accurate he's undervaluing Neal bigtime - get in there and take advantage if you can!
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Wow, if that second offer he made to the other GM is accurate he's undervaluing Neal bigtime - get in there and take advantage if you can!
My thoughts exactly!

And with all the hype surrounding the Sharks...and Clowe being a part of that...mostly because of his 37Pim game a couple back...and MacD who's cooled, but still plays at or near PPG pace when he's healthy, and sending a struggling but quality D in Phaneuf...may be just enough to get him to bite.

We'll see. I don't have much invested here. Truth be told...I would have to make another move as this will give me one to many LW or RW or UTIL. But nice problem to have.
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I like the Neal side. I would say yes to this deal.
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Deal on the table. It's been viewed...I know that much, but no response yet.
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Old 01-30-2013, 04:22 PM
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Banter back and forth...original offer rejected (surprise surprise).

Leveraing Clowe's recent surge and the fact he's a line mate of Couture (who he owns already).

Clowe, Voracek and his choice of Phaneuf or Brendan Smith (Depending on if he wants a Vet or a Prospect)
for
Neal, Wideman and a player to be named (his choice).

Really it's only NEAL that I'm interested in, and Not affraid to pay A slumping Phaneuf and an overachieving Clowe, given who I currently have on my team. I have lost interest in Voracek.

Smith or Phaneuf are my 4th defender
Clowe will not be kept this year

And I still have 2 waiver grabs (as I watch guys like Diaz and Salo or Johnson(Pho) or wait for a late season call up.....

Thoughts?
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