Okay, so here's the background. It's an eight team, full keeper league where we start 3C, 3L, 3R, 5D, 2G daily with five bench spots and an eight man farm team. Scoring is mostly irrelevant to this deal but the scoring is Goals, Assists, +/-, PIM, SOG, PPP, GWG, Wins, Sv%, GAA.

The actual offer was his D. Sedin, Backstrom (goalie), and O'Reilly for my Tarasenko but my roster is as follows:

C
M. Koivu
Spezza
Stastny

L
Zetteberg
Ovechkin
Hall
Kunitz
Semin

R
Callahan
Selanne
Iginla
Backes

D
Green
Karlsson
Pietrangelo
Streit
Edler

G
Halak
Dubnyk
Kiprusoff
Ward

Farm
Tarasenko
Granlund
Schwartz
Larsson
Kassian
Brunner
Atkinson
B. Smith

I said all that to say that I basically have no room for Sedin. The way our farm system works I can callup/demote Tarasenko freely until he's played 50 NHL games and then I can keep him in the minors until he's played 164 games. Basically, I could sit on him for years until I am absolutely certain he will produce for me. This being an eight team league there is always talent on the waiver wire so it's actually beneficial to sit on quality prospects until you absolutely need to bring them up or they force your hand.

Any trade I make involving Tarasenko really equates to dropping a guy AND losing Tarasenko. Sedin might be worth it but clearly I don't NEED him. What I really need is an upgrade in goal and Tarasenko is just as good bait as Sedin and perhaps better.

Can you guys please validate my thoughts on this?

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There's always room for Sedin. You are crazy

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14 team, keep 20. H2H points
C Perez 1B Butler 2B Cano SS Tulo 3B Longoria OF Choo, J. Upton, ArciaBN/UTIL Sandoval, Konerko
SP- Hamels, Gallardo, Wainwright, Harvey
RP- Henderson, Murjica
BN- JZimm, Medlen, A. Sanchez, Lincecum, Fujikawa, Stanton(DL)
Minors- Dahl, Arcia, Springer, Lindor

12 team H2H, keeper
C Avila, Mcann
1B Fielder
2B Utley
SS Andrus
3B Wright
OF Bautista, Harper, Jennings, Crawford
SP Shields, Wainy, Wilson, Anderson
RP Soriano, Mujica
Bench - Brown, , Gyorko, Granderson(DL), Revere, Marcum, Garza(DL), Greinke(DL)
Minors d'Arnaud, Myers, Walker

You are crazy.
I would have made this trade.

Especially needing an upgrade in goal, you didn't make a good decision. There is always room for a proven player like Sedin who has a good history of steady, high production, and while there may always be talent available on the waiver wire, there won't be that kind of talent. You could have packaged other, lesser players for the likes of Granlund, Huberdeau, Galchenyuk, other prospects that aren't off to a hot start. Sedin would have instantly become your best LW. Sorry, but bad call. Overvalued Tarasenko based on a hot start.

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12 Team Keeper, Keep 17, Keepers
Roster: 4C, 3RW, 3LW, 5D, 2U, 3B, 3IR, 4G (Start 2)
Stats: G(3), A(2), +/-, PIM(0.5), PPP(2), SHP(3), GWG(2), HITS(0.1), BLKS(0.2), W(3), L(-1), OTL (1), GA(-1), SV(0.2), SO(3)

C: Crosby, Tavares, Nugent-Hopkins, Johansson
LW: Hall, Parise, Silfverberg, Skinner, Conacher, Jokinen
RW: Seguin, Hossa, Wheeler, Burns, Pavelski, Yakupov
D: Doughty, Fowler, J. Johnson
G: Schneider, Hiller, Fasth, Nabokov

I agree with what you did. It's the extra pieces that ruin it for you.

Getting Sedin would cause you to drop Kunitz (easy move)

But after that I don't see Backstrom or O'Reilly as upgrades. Or enough to justify it.

If it was just Sedin for Tarasenko then I'd consider it. But the other stuff is just more of a headache.

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14 team Salary Cap league
NHL cap + 20 million
Scoring Cats - G, A, P, +/-, PIM, PPP, SHP, GWG, SOG
Goalie Cats - W, SV%, SO, GAA, SVS Made
Start - 3 C, RW, LW, F, 4 D, 2 UTIL, 2 G

C - Getzlaf, E Staal, Marleau, Elias, Eller
LW - Pacioretty, Vanek, Dubinsky, Raymond, Glencross
RW - Perry, Kane, Pominville, Simmonds, Clarkson, Stewart, Dupuis
D - Chara, Muzzin, Gardiner, Irwin
G - Lundqvist, Schneider, Biron

This is basically where I stand. I told the guy that Backstrom and O'Reilly would be drops for me (you can debate whether or not Backstrom is worth more than Dubnyk or Kipper but the reality is none of them have value beyond desperation spot starts) so there's no value in me getting them in the trade. He'd just pick them back up after. I said that I'd need more solid value in return.

Clearly he wants Tarasenko, he's rebuilding so I can still do the Sedin trade if I want it but I'd prefer to keep my options open while I kick down doors trying to land a legitimate #1 goalie.

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Hmm....well yeah, we can forget O'Reilly in this. He's just a throw-in.

But your goalies are fine. Kip and Ward are going to be better. Dubnyk...wellllll lol

Even so, the value Sedin has over Tarasenko? Could easily have made the trade, flipped him or other LW for a #1 goalie. I would think. But maybe that's just me

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14 team, keep 20. H2H points
C Perez 1B Butler 2B Cano SS Tulo 3B Longoria OF Choo, J. Upton, ArciaBN/UTIL Sandoval, Konerko
SP- Hamels, Gallardo, Wainwright, Harvey
RP- Henderson, Murjica
BN- JZimm, Medlen, A. Sanchez, Lincecum, Fujikawa, Stanton(DL)
Minors- Dahl, Arcia, Springer, Lindor

12 team H2H, keeper
C Avila, Mcann
1B Fielder
2B Utley
SS Andrus
3B Wright
OF Bautista, Harper, Jennings, Crawford
SP Shields, Wainy, Wilson, Anderson
RP Soriano, Mujica
Bench - Brown, , Gyorko, Granderson(DL), Revere, Marcum, Garza(DL), Greinke(DL)
Minors d'Arnaud, Myers, Walker

I've got a couple of potential counter offers to propose:

Sedin + Varlamov for Tarasenko

Sedin + Elliott for Tarasenko

Both of these would better address my goaltending situation than the initial offer.

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Is it a weekly or daily start legaue? Like if you had Halak and Elliott could you choose which one to play each day??

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14 team, keep 20. H2H points
C Perez 1B Butler 2B Cano SS Tulo 3B Longoria OF Choo, J. Upton, ArciaBN/UTIL Sandoval, Konerko
SP- Hamels, Gallardo, Wainwright, Harvey
RP- Henderson, Murjica
BN- JZimm, Medlen, A. Sanchez, Lincecum, Fujikawa, Stanton(DL)
Minors- Dahl, Arcia, Springer, Lindor

12 team H2H, keeper
C Avila, Mcann
1B Fielder
2B Utley
SS Andrus
3B Wright
OF Bautista, Harper, Jennings, Crawford
SP Shields, Wainy, Wilson, Anderson
RP Soriano, Mujica
Bench - Brown, , Gyorko, Granderson(DL), Revere, Marcum, Garza(DL), Greinke(DL)
Minors d'Arnaud, Myers, Walker

Yeah that has a ton of merit, I just hate losing assets when I don't have to. For instance if I did the deal then I'd be dropping Kunitz or Stastny. I can live with that but I'd prefer to not have to do so. And maybe it's just me getting greedy but clearly he's overvaluing Tarasenko. I'd like to milk that as best I can and actually address my goaltending in the deal. If you see above I've got a couple of potential counter offers that would work better for me.

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