In an expansion to my article called Re-ranking the top ten starting pitchers, here is my top 20.

The plus/minus numbers indicate if one has risen or fallen in my rankings since writing the article.

1. Justin Verlander
2. Felix Hernandez
3. Clayton Kershaw
4. David Price (+1)
5. Matt Cain (-1)
6. Madison Bumgarner
7. Stephen Strasburg
8. Jered Weaver
9. Johnny Cueto
10. Chris Sale
11. Cole Hamels
12. Gio Gonzalez
13. R.A. Dickey
14. Yovani Gallardo
15. Zack Greinke
16. Yu Darvish
17. C.C. Sabathia
18. Jeremy Hellickson
19. Huroki Kuroda
20. Matt Harrison

Look for other lists from me in the coming days.

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I continue to see C Lee in the top 6 or 7 SP for this year, looks like you've gone the other direction
lots o love for Hellickson & Harrison

Yeah, he's just outside my top 20. 34 years old now, had his struggles last year.

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I think Wainwright will have a big season, never too soon to start talking baseball. Thoughts on Morrow/J.Johnson?

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Stats: G, A, +/-, PIM, PPP, SHP, GWG, Shots - W,SO,GAA,Saves
Start 4-C, 4-LW, 4-RW, 6-D, 2-G

C - Roy, E.Staal, Getzlaf, Stepan
LW - Neal, Zetterberg, Duchene, Ennis, Tlusty
RW - P.Kane, Eberle, Seguin, Callahan, Oshie
D - Byfuglien, Chara, Green, Ekman-Larsson, empty, empty
G - Bryzgalov, Luongo, Price, Varlamov, Fasth
IR - Spezza, Fowler

Farm - Granlund, Tarasenko

I think Jordan Zimmerman deserves a spot in their as well

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Stats: G, A, +/-, PIM, PPP, SHP, GWG, Shots - W,SO,GAA,Saves
Start 4-C, 4-LW, 4-RW, 6-D, 2-G

C - Roy, E.Staal, Getzlaf, Stepan
LW - Neal, Zetterberg, Duchene, Ennis, Tlusty
RW - P.Kane, Eberle, Seguin, Callahan, Oshie
D - Byfuglien, Chara, Green, Ekman-Larsson, empty, empty
G - Bryzgalov, Luongo, Price, Varlamov, Fasth
IR - Spezza, Fowler

Farm - Granlund, Tarasenko

struggles?
run support yes, which is not his doing

Lee ranked

15th in era
10th in whip
9th in SO

Kuroda/Harrison/Hellickson over Lee?
I have Lee around 9 or 10.

Jordan Zimmerman, Adam Wainwright belong in top 15

You know you're totally out of it when you still think Roy Halladay is still a top20 starting pitcher in baseball.

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I don't disagree, it's tough putting together these rankings and leaving out guys like Scherzer, Lee, Zimmermann and Wainwright. Johnson is in a contract year and playing with a much better team, lots if reason to believe a big year is coming.

As for Morrow, always liked him but he can either be completely dominant or struggle, he didn't finish well last year and the AL East division continues to get stronger.

Halladay is not top 20 material anymore, quite simply put.

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You have the right to your opinion, I just ask that you respect mine.

I have my reasons for leaving Lee out of my top 20.

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Great, what are they?
Any list is debatable. No dis-respect, just debatable.
I saw age and struggles?
If you base it on age, fine.
But Lee didn't struggle, that's not debatable.

FWIW, Lee is 5th at MDC.