grigorenko or JVR next 3-5 year window.

G A blks hits PIM +/- sog pts ppp shp

grigorenko is prospect eligible on the farm up till 100 GP and JVR is not. limited keeper but i have room to keep JVR, but he eats a pro spot. both will cost relatively the same, grigs a bit more b/c of hype/eligibility etc.

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Dynasty 10 team H2H
G A PIM +/- ppp hits blks SOG FOW
GAA SV% SA SHO W
C- Crosby, Kopitar, Tavares, Benn
RW-Neal, Kessel, Seguin
LW- Hall, E.Kane, Landeskog
W-Vermette, Yakupov
D- Karlsson, Chara, Doughty, Dillon, Seabrook, Pietrangelo
Bench- Ju.Schultz, Hedman, Clowe, Kesler
G-Quick, Rask, Lehtonen

farm:
Trouba/Kuznetsov/Rielly/Bjugstad/Vasilevskiy

12 team h2h keep 5 + 1 goalie
*2012-2013 Champ
G A PIM +/- hits sog
c-Tavares
lw-Landeskog
rw-Backes, Perry, Seguin
g-Rask

I would take grigorenko here as JVR has not really shown anything and typically Toronto is where careers go to die.

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Dynasty League

G, A, +/-, PIM, PPP, SHP, GWG, FW, FL, H, BLK, W, GAA, SV, SO, SV%

C- Crosby, Skinner, Duchene, Johansen
LW- Cammalleri, Hall, Pacioretty, Paajarvi
RW - Gaborik, Eberle, Havlat, Brower
D - Byfuglien, O.Ekman Larrson, Karlsson, Striet, Pietranglo, Yandle
UTIL- J.Williams, R.Nugent-Hopkins
G- Ward, Mason, Bernier, Marksrtrom
Prospects- M.Grigorenko, R.Murray, S.Monahan, T.Jurco, G.Nyquist

Hmmmm... Grigorenko hasn't shown anything at the NHL level either.

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Ultimate Dynasty League
16 Team Dynasty League H2H: G, A, P, PPP, SHP, +/-, PIM, SOG, W, L, GAA, SvPct, SHO

C: Stamkos, Getzlaf, Carter
LW: Ovechkin, Kovalchuk, Brown
RW: Iginla, Pavelski, Horton
D: Byfuglien, J.Johnson, Goligoski, Hedman, Hamonic
U: Mueller
G: Schneider, Hiller,
B: E. Johnson, S.Kostitsyn, Neil, Biron, Giguere
IR:
Prospect: Nail Yakupov, Tangradi

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...a bad team trying to rebuild...

For the first 3 years I like JVR, after that it might be more tempting to go with Grigorenko. JVR is ready to help contribute now, so if you need that contribution he would be my pick.

I think JVR would help you more now, but Grigorenko will be better in a few years from now IMO.

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12 teams limited keeper (keep 6 + 1 Rookie)
Weekly H2H points only
13 round draft - Unlimited Trades - No Waivers
4 Team Playoffs (last 2 reg. season weeks)
Year 6 (2012-13)

Start : C RW LW Utility D D G
Points are : A - G = 1 pt W = 2 pts SO = 1pt

C - S.Stamkos, L.Couture, M.Granlund, D.Stepan, T.Ennis
LW - L.Eriksson, J.Frazen
RW - T.Purcell, B.Wheeler, K.Versteeg, J.Silfverberg
D- E.Karlsson, J.Johnson, A.Markov, S.Elliot, J.Spurgeon, JM.Liles, N.Leddy
G - A.Niemi, C.Anderson, J.Harding, S.Varlamov

Year 5 Playoff Champ
Year 6 Playoff Champ

JVR for sure, Grigorenko is still just a prospect at this point and won't be in the NHL for a few years.

JVR could be converted to a centre and play between Phil Kessel and Joffrey Lupul. Don't lose sight of that, plus he's still very young.

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A guy who is young and still posses very good upside and is currently in the NHL vs a guy who is also very young and has good upside but not in the NHL. I take the NHL player. JVR

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