No, it isn't a bit much - if you want the best analysis, then you need to give all the information.

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GS, W, L, SV, GAA, SV%, SO G, A, P, +/-, PIM, SOG, GWG, PPP, SHP, HITS, FOW

3C: H. Sedin,Stepan, Stastny, R. Johansen, Hanzal, Anisimov,
3LW: Burrows, Vanek, Ott, Lupul, Dubinsky
3RW: Doan, Pavelski, Brown, Okposo,
6D: Franson, Doughty, Voynov, Subban, Markov, Gonchar, Karlsson
1Util:
2G: Price, Emery


Farm: (< 100 games): S. Elliott, J. Bernier, Galchenyuk, Etem, Eakin, Atkinson

They are pretty close in points right now, the only difference is I can't see Weber getting any better points wise, where as with Doughty he has the immediate potential to hit much higher point totals. The league also values d points higher than points from center and the wings.

I think in this type of format it's worth the risk every time to go with Doughty over Weber, sure Weber will probably beat out Doughty in hits, blocks, and shots but it's worth being overlooked for a solid chance at more total fantasy points.

Doughty leading all D in scoring in the playoffs makes me think he's ready to go back to putting up big point totals.

I would take Shea Weber in this league format.

points only: doughty

otherwise weber.

aki berg trumps them all though.

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It's close... I think we will see Doughty bounce back as one of the elite in the league next season, but this format definitely favours Weber.

All said, I would take Weber by a hair.

As long as you're not abusing sig space by posting needless images (boobies are OK) and irrelevant text then it's fine. Anything that helps others figure out your league context is a good thing.

Weber for me.

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It's not a bit much. You are asking us for advice based on your league settings so we need it to give you advice. Otherwise, we'd be guessing. However, if you really don't want to add to it, then at least clear up the league type to H2H points, and provide all the scoring values at the beginning of each future thread.

As well, it would be helpful if you could provide the fantasy points (per season/game) as well so we don't have to do the calculations for you. In future, if you have this information provided up front then it would save a lot of questions (and time, if necessary). Even better if you gave us the fpoints for both good/bad years for both players to see how it affects it.

Looking at the settings, a lot of people are assuming Weber kills in this format but have a look at Doughty only two years ago (hits/blocks). He's not too bad, so if he gets back to that pace, how much it affects the fantasy points and depending on how much (if at all) offensive advantage, this might be closer than we think.

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Thanks everyone... I've actually learned a lot in this thread... I have been cheating myself for a couple of years now - at least in terms of the advice I was getting.

As per Horrorfan's post, here are the fantasy numbers based on every category previously mentioned - except Blocked Shots... we just added them this Summer, so there's no history. I am including Byfuglien, Chara, Karlsson, and Green as well to help give some reference:

Weber:
2011 = 337.75
2010 = 322.5
2009 = 275.25

Doughty:
2011 = 237
2010 = 276.5
2009 = 360.25

Buffy:
2011 = 290.75
2010 = 335.5
2009 = 258.25

Chara:
2011 = 366.25
2010 = 342.5
2009 = 315.25

Karlsson:
2011 = 388.75
2010 = 212.5
2009 = 135

Green:
2011 = 62.75
2010 = 191.75
2009 = 449
2008 = 425

Green's 2008 and 2009 seasons were the only 400+ point seasons for a defensemen in our league ever.

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G,A,+/-, PIM, PPG, SHG, GWG, OTG, FOWs, Hits, Blks, Maj, Mis, (bonus scoring for D-men makes them comparable to Wing)
Wins, Saves, GA, Shutouts

Daily Start: 2C, 4W, 4D, 2G

C: Toews, Kopitar, Bergeron
W: Parise, Neal, E. Kane, Iginla, Hartnell, Jagr
D: Karlsson (IR), S. Weber, Markov, Ehrhoff, Wideman, Souray, Pitkanen
G: Halak, Niemi, Lehner

Since there are some calculations required, you could create a spreadsheet to Google Docs and post a link to the file in your sig. All of this can be stored there and others can access the info easily. I just think something like this would make your life easier.

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One thing that could make a difference when trying to compare based on your settings is looking at it on a per game basis, as this is a H2H league. I did a quick calculation for blocks and using both Weber's and Doughty's average BS totals for the past three seasons. It results in Weber having a 8 fpt advantage on a weekly basis. So, would that have much of an effect on your totals, especially if Doughty increases his offense towards his career season, or at least 50+? That's what you have to decide. I don't think it's clear cut, nor do I think the hits/blocks have as significant effect on your weekly at first glance.

That's a mistake that some people focus too much of their attention on - they see hits and blocked shots and assume Weber is more valuable. He could be, but depending on the rest of the settings and your projections going forward, will he remain that way and if so, will it be by much?

Also, elite offensive defensemen are harder to find than peripherals so if Doughty can get back to that level then I'd be tempted to lean towards his direction, if you agree that the loss of Suter and an average offense will hurt Weber's offensive totals.

Finally, not sure if you mentioned it above but it comes down to how much your trading partner values both players, as you can number crunch all you want but until you know what the other side thinks, then it might not matter as much. If you can get an upgrade along with Doughty then I would seriously consider pursuing it. If it has to be straight up, well, to me it's flip a coin (I know, doesn't help) but I really think it can be close. It might come down to who you like to cheer for more!

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