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I don't know if Gomez will make sense. The buyout is for this summer. At that point, Gomez will have one year left on his contract that pays him $4.5 million. He could be more attractive to other teams trying to get to a cap floor, since his cap hit is $7.3 million.
The Panthers are a great example of how to play the cap floor game properly. Gomez does nothing for a team but Fleischmann, Campbell, Versteeg and Theodore make the team better and put more asses in seats.
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I am sick of hearing about a drop-dead date: January 11th. The shitty part about a drop-dead date is that it pushes things back. Make the drop dead date tomorrow at midnight. I just don't see either side settling until the last possible second. The pieces are here -- get it done.
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I am sick of hearing about a drop-dead date: January 11th. The shitty part about a drop-dead date is that it pushes things back. Make the drop dead date tomorrow at midnight. I just don't see either side settling until the last possible second. The pieces are here -- get it done.
I hear ya... here's the latest:

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/01/02/sp...&emc=rss&_r=1&
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Highlights of the NHL's proposal from today, courtesy of TSN (http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=412383)

It looks to me that the league is giving in on most things, except contract length beyond 6 yrs. I'm not posting all of it but including a lot of highlights.

The following is the highlights of the latest proposal from the NHL to the NHL Players' Association:

- Ten-Year Agreement (through 2021/22 season); Parties have mutual opt-out right after 8 years.

- 50-50 Revenue Split between Clubs and Players with current HRR Accounting.

- $300 million in "Make-Whole" payments (outside the system) to compensate Players for the reduced value of Player contracts in the early years of the new CBA.

- No contractual "roll backs" of Player Salaries.

- Clubs can operate with an effective Upper Limit of $70.2 million in 2012/13; must come into compliance with $60 million Upper Limit for the start of the 2013/14 season.

- Each Club will be entitled to execute up to one "Compliance Buy-Out" prior to the 2013/14 season pursuant to which payments made to the Player will not be charged against the team's Cap, but will be charged against the Players' Share.

- Establishment of a Defined Benefit Pension Plan that will provide maximum permissible benefits to Players upon retirement. The Plan will be funded with contributions out of Players' Share and $50 million of the "Make-Whole" payment amount of $300 million will be allocated and set aside to fund potential underfunding liabilities of the Plan at end of CBA.

- Rules for Entry Level System, Salary Arbitration and Group 3 Unrestricted Free Agency will remain unchanged.

- Maximum contract length of 6 years subject to a Club's ability to re-sign its own Player for a term of up to 7 years (provided the Player played his last full season with the re-signing Club). In addition, year-to-year Salary variability will be limited (up or down) to no more than 10% of the value of the first year of a multi-year SPC.

- Money paid (above a defined threshold) to Players on NHL SPCs in another professional league (e.g., the AHL or a European league) will be charged against the NHL team's Cap, but not against the Players' Share.

- "Cap Advantage Recapture" formula applicable to existing long-term contracts (in excess of 6 years) for years in which Player is retired or fails/refuses to perform under his NHL SPC.

- Ability for Clubs to retain/allocate Salary and Cap Charges in the context of Player Trades within specified parameters.

- More robust League-wide Revenue Sharing Program (increased pool from approximately $150 million to $200 million) with creation of Industry Growth Fund to improve the long-term revenue generating potential of the League and low-grossing Clubs. Formation of active Revenue Sharing Oversight Committee on which NHLPA will participate.

- New Player Discipline procedures and protocol incorporating Player appeal rights to a neutral third-party arbitrator for both on-ice and off-ice discipline.

- Flexibility-related adjustments to Payroll Range System, including (in addition to Salary/Cap Charge allocation in Player trades):
1. Lower Limit obligation without performance bonuses;
2. Elimination of Re-Entry Waivers;
3. Creation of Salary Cap exceptions for emergency roster situations/goaltender injuries;
4. Waiver exemptions for mid-season signings of Club's own European Players;
5. Availability of Performance Bonus Cushion in every year of the CBA; and
6. Creation of "interview period" for Unrestricted Free Agents.

- Various Player contract enhancements and protections, including:
1. Early activation of "No Move/No Trade" clauses in contract extensions;
2. Additional restrictions on Club "buy-out" rights of Player contracts;
3. Modified Waiver obligations for Clubs / enhanced Waiver opportunities for Players;
4. Standardization of reimbursements and benefits related to Player assignments (trades, loans, recalls, etc.);
5. Continued increases in League Minimum Salary and Per Diem;
6. Playoff Pool increased from $6.5 million to $13 million in Year 1; additional regular increases over the balance of the CBA term;
7. All minor league salary paid in USD;
8. Liberalized "Cap treatment" standards for Club initiatives benefitting Players, such as "parent-son" road trips; milestone awards/gifts; parental travel and lodging for attendance at EL Player games, Club provision of various types of "professional development"-type services for Players, etc.

- Player "Working Condition" improvements, including:
1. Ice-time restrictions and mandatory "days off" requirements during Training Camp;
2. Club practice schedule and "days off" requirements during the Regular Season;
3. Extended "Christmas Break" (i.e., December 24-26 "days off" for all purposes);

- Elimination of NHLPA "Guarantee" of Escrow shortfall and increased NHLPA discretion to determine in-season Escrow Rates.

- Implementation of a weighted Draft Lottery in which all non-Playoff teams compete for opportunity to choose first overall in the annual Draft.

- Exclusive negotiating rights window for European Draftees extended to one period covering four years, instead of two periods covering two years each.

- Modification to "Four-Recall Rule" to remove limitation on "number of transactions" following the Trade Deadline; replace with limitations on the total number of Recalls on roster at any one time after the Trade Deadline.

- Updated and improved Grievance Arbitration process and procedure.

- Enhanced access to Game Tickets for Visiting Team Players and NHLPA.

- NHLPA representatives to be provided reasonable access to Club facilities and Players at reasonable times
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isnt this the offer from the 28th?
If i am not mistaken, there has been a few counters back and forth that are not yet public?
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I have been semi out of the loop the last few days - can anyone confirm if Bill Daly is still alive or did he actually die on that hill?
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isnt this the offer from the 28th?
If i am not mistaken, there has been a few counters back and forth that are not yet public?
I am honestly not sure but *think* it is one of the newer offers. However in either case, it seems really PA friendly. From what I can tell, the only substantial real bone of contention is what the 2013/14 cap will be.
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https://twitter.com/Real_ESPNLeBrun/...18577807761410

"From NHL player: "How they respond to our latest proposal will determine if we disclaim or not." Huge meeting tonight to say the least."

Sounds like tonights discussions could be a fun. Could really be a make or break night as this whole process goes forward, or doesn't.
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"From NHL player: "How they respond to our latest proposal will determine if we disclaim or not." Huge meeting tonight to say the least."

That is some strong arm negotiating tactics right there...
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