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Old 12-19-2012, 04:02 PM
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I am hoping its Morrow. It should be their ace and in my opinion Morrow is still their ace until proven otherwise.
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Old 12-19-2012, 04:16 PM
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Whoa, how about we'll see how they play first before we start going a bit overboard? Jays fans should be happy generally at the potential growth in the short-term and opportunity for a playoff berth. But to start taking World Series is a bit much.

From most places I've checked today the Jays are now the Favorites to win the W.S. Which is exactly what I said in my post. SO HA
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Old 12-19-2012, 04:30 PM
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From most places I've checked today the Jays are now the Favorites to win the W.S. Which is exactly what I said in my post. SO HA
Yeah, Vegas has them as 7/1, which is the best odds of any team. Good times to be a Jays fan, finally. I still remember the exciting team from the early 90s.
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I don't know about calling them favourites for the World Series. I think that's really premature as hundreds of teams throughout the years have looked great on paper and then failed to deliver, for whatever reason - injuries, poor managing, bad luck, whatever.

Having said that, 93 wins was worth a wild card berth last year. Jays had 73.
Did their moves improve them by at least 20 wins?

Boy, I sure think so.
And I'm a pessimistic jerk to the core.

I think the starting staff alone has improved (on paper) between 12 and 15 wins. That assumes Johnson does better than the 8 he got last year, which I think is a reasonable assumption. Add to that a healthy Morrow (hopefully), plus even a slightly better Romero (he couldn't possibly be worse than last year, could he?) and I think 15 extra wins based on the improved starting staff is very achievable.

Will they improve enough elsewhere to get the other 5 wins?

Melky is an upgrade in left.
Izturis and Bonafacio are both upgrades on Johnson at 2nd.
Bautista will hopefully be back full time in right.
Lawrie, when you look at his ability level, can't be worse than last year.
Full year coming out of Delebar (a very underrated, but outstanding, reliever).
Healthy Santos (hopefully).

Those are all just off the top of my head. I think there's more that I'm missing.

Point being, I do think they can improve by 20 wins.
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From most places I've checked today the Jays are now the Favorites to win the W.S. Which is exactly what I said in my post. SO HA
I knew you'd come back with that. Time will tell.
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I am hoping its Morrow. It should be their ace and in my opinion Morrow is still their ace until proven otherwise.

There Rotation should be like so imho. Morrow, Dickey, Johnson, Romaro, Buehrle. I want Romaro after Johnson for his change up and due to the fact that I fully expect him to bounce back 110% this year.
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There Rotation should be like so imho. Morrow, Dickey, Johnson, Romaro, Buehrle. I want Romaro after Johnson for his change up and due to the fact that I fully expect him to bounce back 110% this year.
I agree with you re: Romaro after Johnson but I cant see them throwing back to back lefties. They will want to break them up by at least a day.
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Since I projected Morrow as their #2, I wouldn't have too much of a problem if he was their opening day guy.

I just don't think the optics would be very good.
I mean, who acquires a Cy Young pitcher and then leaves him on the bench opening day?
Plus, let's keep in mind that Dickey's contract extension, relatively speaking, is probably a bargain, so AA and Gibbons clearly sold R.A. on other things... one of them likely an assurance that the organization will treat him with the respect an ace deserves. He starts opening day, no question in my mind.

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There Rotation should be like so imho. Morrow, Dickey, Johnson, Romaro, Buehrle. I want Romaro after Johnson for his change up and due to the fact that I fully expect him to bounce back 110% this year.
No snowball's chance in hell that Buehrle will be okay starting in the fifth spot lol. We have to remember that we have egos to deal with here.

Romero - lock for 5th starter. Has to be. Least qualified, coming off the worst season of his life. At least this way he's protected by the top 4 and there is less pressure on him and less media buzz. Good way for him to slowly build his confidence and regain his form.


Buehrle/Johnson/Morrow - This is where the complications begin and end. I have a FEELING....and that's all it is really, that what the rotation will end up being is Dickey-Buehrle-Morrow-Johnson-Romero...or Dickey-Morrow-Buehrle-Johnson-Romero.

Dickey-Morrow-Buehrle-Johnson-Romero would be fantastic IMO as it splits up the fireballers and the lefties. Adds some crazy contrast to the rotation, but Buehrle would have to be okay starting in the 3 spot which I'm not sure he will be.

I think that Johnson falls into the four spot by default. While Morrow definitely deserves to be top of the rotation, he has to give way to the vets with the egos first. Dickey I could see comfortably sitting in wherever he is called upon to pitch, but I can't see that from Buerhle.

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Dickey won't the be the #1 starter. Not if you believe in the fireballer/finesse combo scenario. Can't have Dickey after Ricky.

Assume it will be either Morrow or Johnson as our #1, followed by Dickey as #2.
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